Lansing General Motors MotoTrbo Freqs

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mtindor

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WQTZ382 - Lansing Parts Plant
936.2000
937.0000

WQTP275 - Grand River Assembly
935.1875
935.2125
935.6875
936.1375
936.4500
936.9125
937.1875
937.2375
937.3875
937.4375

None of this is in the DB. If you are able to determine (a) type of system -- Cap+ or Con+, (b) frequencies in use, (c) LCNs -- I beg you to submit your findings to the database so that others can benefit from your sleuthing. Please only submit verified information though.

Thanks!

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I realize all of that guys. Do take a look at the Michigan Trunked Systems page and you'll notice three Cap+ sites (at least according to the DB) along with the 396 Con+ system. So, it could just as easily be Cap+. Or the Michigan DB could be wrong about most of the others.

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If someone could monitor them, the Connect Plus uses a continuous control channel and the CapPlus uses a Rest Channel that pulses every 2 seconds. TT
 

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WQTZ382 - Lansing Parts Plant
936.2000
937.0000

WQTP275 - Grand River Assembly
935.1875
935.2125
935.6875
936.1375
936.4500
936.9125
937.1875
937.2375
937.3875
937.4375

None of this is in the DB. If you are able to determine (a) type of system -- Cap+ or Con+, (b) frequencies in use, (c) LCNs -- I beg you to submit your findings to the database so that others can benefit from your sleuthing. Please only submit verified information though.

Thanks!

Mike
Lansing Delta uses Connect Plus.. I just checked a radio.
 

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Lansing Delta uses Connect Plus.. I just checked a radio.

Is Lansing Delta the location you were wanting frequencies for? And is it one of those licenses I listed above? If it's CON+, can you get the System ID and Site ID for it and let us know what frequency is the control channel ?
 

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Here’s some info I found out. I’m fairly new to trunking.. so I’m learning... Network ID is 395. Site No 13. Repeater 3. RSSI 71. Neighbor List 23,0,0,0,0. I also know of this number 1315057? Which could just be our talk group?
 

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Here’s some info I found out. I’m fairly new to trunking.. so I’m learning... Network ID is 395. Site No 13. Repeater 3. RSSI 71. Neighbor List 23,0,0,0,0. I also know of this number 1315057? Which could just be our talk group?

1315057 is likely your radio ID, but I can't say for sure. Can you confirm any active frequencies on this site? It cannot be added to the database without knowing active frequencies / LCNs. 395-13 is useful, as we know it is as TT and GTR suspected, the General Motors USA CON+ Trunked System ( https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8078 ). But we can't just "throw" in frequencies from a license that are not confirmed as active. Things we enter into the database need to be confirmed by listeners. So if you can get any additional information, that would be appreciated. What are you using to monitor this sytem? A radio that is actually part of the trunked system? A Uniden or Whistler scanner? DSDPlus?

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I have the LGR frequencies entered in my scanner, I believe i programmed it as "trunked" as opposed to "conventional", I've heard transmissions but it seems that it only catches on one frequency all the time and doesn't follow much. Maybe I have it programmed in wrong. Any advise?
I am 2 blocks east of Sparrow Hospital and can hear them decently.
 

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I have the LGR frequencies entered in my scanner, I believe i programmed it as "trunked" as opposed to "conventional", I've heard transmissions but it seems that it only catches on one frequency all the time and doesn't follow much. Maybe I have it programmed in wrong. Any advise?
I am 2 blocks east of Sparrow Hospital and can hear them decently.

What type of scanner? If it's a Uniden, you need to determine proper color codes and LCNs. If a GRE/Whistler, you should be able to just throw all of the frequencies in.

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The GM facilities in Ingersoll & St Catherines Ontario are also Connect Plus with a network ID of 395. CAMI in Ingersoll is Site 72 I believe.
 

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The GM facilities in Ingersoll & St Catherines Ontario are also Connect Plus with a network ID of 395. CAMI in Ingersoll is Site 72 I believe.

Interesting. I imagine that these should be consolidated:


But they probably never will be. I see the Canada ones don't have any control channels designated or provide any clue as to whether LCN order on any of the sites are correct. Meh.

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What type of scanner? If it's a Uniden, you need to determine proper color codes and LCNs. If a GRE/Whistler, you should be able to just throw all of the frequencies in.

Mike
Uniden BCD325P2. I have no idea what the color codes are for this system, or even if it's a trunking system at all (vs conventional) I would assume it is a trunking system.
 

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Uniden BCD325P2. I have no idea what the color codes are for this system, or even if it's a trunking system at all (vs conventional) I would assume it is a trunking system.

I don't know what all a BCD325P2 displays on a DMR system. I don' tknow if it will show the trunked system type or not. But I'm sure it's a DMR trunked system, with a very highly likely that it is DM COnnect Plus and part of the large wide-area GM system.

Does a BCD325P2 have the "LCN Finder" feature on it? If so, run LCN Finder on the system.

If you program them in conventionally, you'll be able to get the color code -- but you won't get the LCN order. the LCN order is crucial for proper trunktracking on a Uniden scanner. That is true whether it's Cap+, Con+,etc.

If you don't have "LCN Finder" available, you and/or someone else within earshot is going to have to use something like DSDPlus to figure out the LCN order / active frequencies.

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Interesting. I imagine that these should be consolidated:


But they probably never will be. I see the Canada ones don't have any control channels designated or provide any clue as to whether LCN order on any of the sites are correct. Meh.

Mike
Systems can only be assigned to a single country in the RRDB, which is why they have to remain as two systems.
 

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Here’s some info I found out. I’m fairly new to trunking.. so I’m learning... Network ID is 395. Site No 13. Repeater 3. RSSI 71. Neighbor List 23,0,0,0,0. I also know of this number 1315057? Which could just be our talk group?

From what I gathered monitoring the Fort Wayne, IN GM Assembly plant (395-12), TGs for each site are in a 12xx, 13xx format. 1315 is a TG for site 13, 1206 is a TG for site 12. Radio IDs start with the TG they are primary used for (??). Example: Radio ID 1315057 you will primarily find on TG 1315.
 

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I submitted the freqs, LCN order, and CC for the Fort Wayne, IN GM plant (395-12) on 01/19/2020.
 

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I submitted the freqs, LCN order, and CC for the Fort Wayne, IN GM plant (395-12) on 01/19/2020.
For future reference, the site is part of the existing GM system linked below. Submissions should be made from the existing system's page, not as a new system in the county. I've reassigned your submission so that it'll get where it needs to go.

 
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