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GrandpaFrank

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Hi all I was wondering why I cannot hear the Harbor Division toggle B channel on Simplex 484.8750. I can hear everything except when they say switch to toggle B, then I can only hear half of the conversation. Anyone else get this? It's the same for my Pro-96 as well as my HP-1
 
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xts3000r

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well when they say, go to simplex that means, they are talking radio to radio. you will not hear them unless you are buy them. thats way
 

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Sup XTS3000r?

Most likely what's happening when they say toggle B, is the repeater is temporarily shut off and the dispatcher is listening to the input of the repeater. They do this all the time when the officer wants to say something, but doesn't want it broadcast to anyone else. Usually it's more personal information being said when this happens.

So find the input frequency to the repeater and when they say switch to toggle B, listen to the INPUT frequency of the repeater. You'll have to toggle back and forth between the repeater and input freq to hear everything as long as your in range of the radio transmitting on the input freq you'll hear everything.
 

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LAPD dispatchers have no ability to shut a repeater off, and the dispatch frequencies are set up only for use in duplex (repeater) mode anyway. Nor can they monitor or transmit on the division "simplex" frequencies. If officers have confidential information to pass along, they would send it via their MDC or else use a telephone to call whoever they need to notify. Patrol units, and most others, don't have encryption enabled. Yet.

As xts3000r said, "Toggle B" refers to the officers switching their radios to simplex mode for unit-to-unit communications on a tactical frequency.

The two common reasons you'll hear only one side of a conversation are
(a) In "Toggle B" mode (true simplex) if one unit is close enough for you to hear but the other one isn't; or else
(b) if one officer stayed on the repeater but the other one went to Toggle B (true simplex) and is too far away from you.

With LAPD's system, there is really no reason to switch your scanner to the input frequency, because whenever someone transmits on there it gets repeated.

Most likely what's happening when they say toggle B, is the repeater is temporarily shut off and the dispatcher is listening to the input of the repeater. They do this all the time when the officer wants to say something, but doesn't want it broadcast to anyone else. Usually it's more personal information being said when this happens.

So find the input frequency to the repeater and when they say switch to toggle B, listen to the INPUT frequency of the repeater. You'll have to toggle back and forth between the repeater and input freq to hear everything as long as your in range of the radio transmitting on the input freq you'll hear everything.
 
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Radio_Lady

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The input freq. on uhf for the repeater is usually 5.000 mhz higher than the output freq.. In case he want to listen to simplex.
LAPD is on T-band (470-512), so the inputs are all 3.000 mHz higher. If they are talking on true simplex, nothing will be heard on the input frequencies (e.g. 487.875)
 
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