Louisa Co PulsePoint

SVFire01

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Anyone know when Louisa Co PulsePoint is going to go live? I know its been on the list for a few weeks but hasn't been spitting out incidents.
I believe PulsePoint should be a requirement that all counties/states adapt. It is a very useful tool. Especially out in the rural areas.
 

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Anyone know when Louisa Co PulsePoint is going to go live? I know its been on the list for a few weeks but hasn't been spitting out incidents.
I believe PulsePoint should be a requirement that all counties/states adapt. It is a very useful tool. Especially out in the rural areas.
The issue is that it's expensive, and many agencies don't have that kind of money. I was told Louisa only got it because it's grant-funded.
 

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It's been more than ten years ago since I was involved in the PulsePoint rollout in Chesapeake, and it was something like $20,000 for the first year at the time. Not a huge deal for a city the size of Chesapeake (they pissed away more than that putting "In God We Trust" on all the city vehicles :rolleyes:), but for a rural county like Louisa that can be a big chunk of money. The maintenance costs are a lot less; I think just a couple of thousand dollars per year (but again, this was 2015-ish, so prices have certainly changed since).

But even setting aside the cost, the technical implementation is non-trivial. Tying into CAD systems is a pain, and frequently requires custom work on both sides to implement. If it's already paid for (and it sounds like it is, since they're in the system), it's probably just a delay in CAD integration.
 

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I heard Stafford County will cease its connection to PulsePoint at the end of this month.
 

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I heard Stafford County will cease its connection to PulsePoint at the end of this month.
Honestly that doesn't surprise me. I don't think PulsePoint is actually working very well for a lot of agencies. The limitations are just too significant. I don't know about other localities, but around here they only send out notifications for CPR needed in public places. While I understand why they don't send out notifications for private residences, that's where most cardiac arrests happen.
 

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I'm not an expert on PulsePoint as I don't have it, but I know in this area, it is used as a general notification to the public when units are responding to fires and car accidents. People will sometimes post screenshots from PulsePoint informing others on Facebook or NextDoor about an incident. I believe I've seen people mention a certain version of PulsePoint (PulsePoint Respond?) which gives more details and may be intended for those who can perform CPR, use an AED, etc.
 

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I'm not an expert on PulsePoint as I don't have it, but I know in this area, it is used as a general notification to the public when units are responding to fires and car accidents. People will sometimes post screenshots from PulsePoint informing others on Facebook or NextDoor about an incident. I believe I've seen people mention a certain version of PulsePoint (PulsePoint Respond?) which gives more details and may be intended for those who can perform CPR, use an AED, etc.
Oh yeah, people definitely use it for that, but that's not why departments deploy it. The PulsePoint pitch, and the reason it was created, is to alert people trained in CPR that someone nearby needs it so they can assist. I imagine many departments are ambivalent at best about the incident display. CFD didn't care (when I was there), because we didn't have any problems with people showing up on calls or anything like that. But not all departments are as pragmatic as CFD is/was. Even CFD doesn't publish incidents that originate as LE calls and have stopped publishing geolocations for medicals at private residences. I also see lots of screenshots showing up on social media, which makes it even less attractive to many departments with a less pragmatic viewpoint, and maybe even some that are. The line between the public's right to know and patient and responder safety is a delicate one to walk.

There's only one version of PulsePoint that most people would need, and that's PulsePoint Respond. Making yourself available as a CPR responder is just a toggle in the app settings. The other PulsePoint app, PulsePoint AED, is for people who work someplace with an AED or are responsible for an AED. It will notify if anyone within a certain distance of the AED needs assistance, and allows people to add public AEDs to the PulsePoint database.
 
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