Manteca PD

[cwmehring]

Does anyone know how to scan Manteca PD? Reason I'm asking is that they are on a digital channel and are running some sort of encryption. I have a Uniden Bearcat BCD396t digital scanner and have imported the Manteca PD frequencies straight from the RR database.

Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted.

 

[JoeyC]

As you have been told in previous threads, if Manteca is indeed using encryption on their P25 radios, then NO there is no scanning of the encrypted portion. No workarounds. All you will hear is the unencrypted stuff.

 

[R1VINCE]

Just to elaborate what JoeyC has posted...

...being "local enough" to know, Manteca PD is, for the most part, encrypted most of the time. Every few once in a whiles, you will here them unencrypted, but not much. Your radio is capable of hearing P25 audio, however, if the station of interest is using encryption, there is no way around it as no scanner is capable of hearing encrypted traffic. Not to mention it is illegal to do so anyway.

 

[avtarsingh]

when it is encrypted you will see ENC on the screen

this means that manteca has higher security needs than LA, SAN FRAN, Sacramento
and about 90% other cities

manteca is "high tech"

land of the free

 

[crucialcolin]

seems like they dont want any one listening in incase they do something they shouldnt

 

[cousinkix1953]

seems like they dont want any one listening in incase they do something they shouldnt

Orange county went ~!@#$%^&*()_+, not long after the crooked sheriff was sent to federal prison a few years ago.

 

[cousinkix1953]

when it is encrypted you will see ENC on the screen

this means that manteca has higher security needs than LA, SAN FRAN, Sacramento
and about 90% other cities

manteca is "high tech"

land of the free

Not likely! Small towns go crazy; because they have a lot of federal funds to spend on new toys. The FBI, DEA and a SWAT team might have some good uses for encryption; but a small town police chief who scrambles routine calls is PARANOID or he has something to hide.

 

[K6CDO]

Orange county went !@#$%^&*()_+, not long after the crooked sheriff was sent to federal prison a few years ago.

Actually, Orange County law enforcement went encrypted long before former sheriff Michael Carona was indicted in 2007.

 

[RolnCode3]

Actually, Orange County law enforcement went encrypted long before former sheriff Michael Carona was indicted in 2007.

That just doesn't sound as good for all the conspiracy theorists...

 

[crucialcolin]

That just doesn't sound as good for all the conspiracy theorists...

Indeed.

Actually as far as encryption is concerned it seems there are two schools of thought it comes down to as to how a particular law enforcement agency is run. One is keeping a department open and transparent while the other is closed. Closed could of course mean there could be something shady going on there but more then likely its because whosoever in charge decided they want to keep the public onlookers away from an incident and out of the know or they may be afraid that criminal suspects might have a scanner and be able to use it to their advantage.

Personalty I think an open agency is the way to go. Besides learning from any mistakes that might happen along the way the public is usually more informed thus less likely to let crime go unreported.

I just hope we aren't headed towards a future with more secretive & closed law enforcement with encrypted radio traffic like I suspect may eventually happen partly due to tecnology.

 

[WayneH]

Lets please not wander off in to an encryption debate. Thanks.

 

[crucialcolin]

Its inevitable though

oh well I guess the main point is Manteca for whatever reason decided to use Encryption which means there's no way can pick them up even with a newer P25 scanner. Pretty much all there is to this thread.

 

[kma371]

Manteca officers are a bit "different"

Basically the guys I talked to at breakfast one morning just think it's cool, for lack of a better word, to be encrypted. They can turn it off and on, on each radio. Some guys don't care and don't turn it on. That's why you hear some clear and some not.

I don't know why dispatch is sometimes encrypted, and sometimes not.

 

[WayneH]

I don't know why dispatch is sometimes encrypted, and sometimes not.

Could be different consoles. They may not understand the different icons and stuff. They just click/tap to talk...

 

[gusbuster1217]

I just think it just depends on who is dispatching and when.

When it is the lady that I usualy here, she is usually out in the open. The man that I usually here, well I cant because he is usually encrypeted. But the console, I agree also with.

Sometime you will here a Licoln or Sam unit out in the open, specially during special events and during holiday periods.

Just what I have observed when I do have the scanner on.