• To anyone looking to acquire commercial radio programming software:

    Please do not make requests for copies of radio programming software which is sold (or was sold) by the manufacturer for any monetary value. All requests will be deleted and a forum infraction issued. Making a request such as this is attempting to engage in software piracy and this forum cannot be involved or associated with this activity. The same goes for any private transaction via Private Message. Even if you attempt to engage in this activity in PM's we will still enforce the forum rules. Your PM's are not private and the administration has the right to read them if there's a hint to criminal activity.

    If you are having trouble legally obtaining software please state so. We do not want any hurt feelings when your vague post is mistaken for a free request. It is YOUR responsibility to properly word your request.

    To obtain Motorola software see the Sticky in the Motorola forum.

    The various other vendors often permit their dealers to sell the software online (i.e., Kenwood). Please use Google or some other search engine to find a dealer that sells the software. Typically each series or individual radio requires its own software package. Often the Kenwood software is less than $100 so don't be a cheapskate; just purchase it.

    For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).

    This is a large and very visible forum. We cannot jeopardize the ability to provide the RadioReference services by allowing this activity to occur. Please respect this.
  • Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

    If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
    https://forums.radioreference.com/rants/224104-official-thread-live-audio-feeds-scanners-wait-encryption.html

Micor Compa-repeater Channel Elements

Status
Not open for further replies.

rys092209

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Oct 4, 2013
Messages
5
Location
Eagle, NE
#1
I have a UHF Motorola Micor Compa-Repeater that I am trying to get up and running for Sh*^s and giggles. The receiver works just fine but I cant get the transmitter to work because I have no channel elements in the station. I was really disappointed when I discovered the lack of these channel elements and after making a phone call to a very nice representative at ICM, I discovered that replacing these channel elements (KXN1052 is the channel element part number) would cost me $265 PER ELEMENT! So I have two questions for the RadioReference community at large:

1) Can I, instead of using a KXN1052 channel element, use another Motorola UHF element that has the same female receptacle pin configuration such as the TLN1146B or the TLN8967A? - ebay listing for reference is as follows;

Motorola TLN8967A Channel Element Crystal Oscillator 405 470 MHz 463 675 | eBay
OR
Motorola TLN1146B Channel Element Crystal Oscillator 467 125 | eBay

2) What are some of the work-around suggestions you all (RadioReference community) might have in the event that I cannot get channel elements for my Micor? I would like to get this repeater running for less than what I paid for this machine, and really, I am not really interested in even spending over $100. Is there a way to update the exciter board in the Micor? or is there a way to replace the exciter/transmitter by swapping in another transceiver?

I have done extensive google searches and I have read the entire manual for my station and the supplemental Control and Applications manual. I have also utilized repeater-builder.com to no avail. The closest thing to a solution that I have come up with is a complete conversion to a synthesized controller which would eliminate the exciter in favor of other components. This is a really complicated conversion and I almost feel like it would not be worth it since I am more likely to break my station than convert it.

Thanks for all of your help.

Amateur Radio Hobbiest
 

Tech792

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 25, 2003
Messages
1,569
Location
Central NJ
#2
Thats a 25+ year old station and not worth spending the money. Plus it won't do narrow band. If you can find the TX element used on ebay, one of the crystal companies can make you a new crystal for a lot less than the price of an element. Use to be $10-$20 for a crystal. No idea what it cost these days. Then you just open the element and swap the crystal inside. This requires desoldering the old xtal and resoldering the new one. Then it has to be aligned on frequency. So you'll need access to test equipment.
 

rys092209

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Oct 4, 2013
Messages
5
Location
Eagle, NE
#3
Tech792

Yeah that would be simple if i could FIND the element. Then, I would have to buy the crystal which may or may not be a resonable price for me. The ICM rep explained to me why these parts are so expensive these days, according to her, these elements and crystals are getting extremely rare. I can find RX Elements by the batch (20 - 50 a lot) but no TX elements. I am seriously considering, since I am in the hole for buying this Micor station in the first place, just taking out the exciter and transmitter and substituting it with a transciever I have laying around. I imagine that I could set up the transciever to do VOX opeations so that input signal from the reciever will trigger a transmit. I have some work to do.

Any other work arounds?

Thanks for your reply Tech792
 
Joined
Feb 5, 2004
Messages
200
Location
Sparks, NV
#4
I am a MICOR lover. (I work on some form of MICOR pretty much every couple days.)
I am sure there are LOTS of those elements around. Maybe not with ham crystals, but at least something to let you test it and see if it is worth finding or buying the right crystals for your elements.
The crystal companies really don't want to make crystals for ham radio much anymore, hence the high prices.
There really is not much profit in making crystals individually. I guess I can't blame them.
Their time is better spent making a production run of thousands of crystals for another product.
The trusty MICOR line is about 40 years old, and most of them date from the 70's.
Post your question on the Repeater-Builder Yahoo! group and I bet you get better response.
 
Joined
Mar 30, 2005
Messages
3,229
Location
So Cali
#5
" The trusty MICOR line is about 40 years old, and most of them date from the 70's.
Post your question on the Repeater-Builder Yahoo! group and I bet you get better response. "

The Micor IS one of the best radios out there. And they are not that hard to work on.
I heard a rummer about a programmable Chanel Element being available.

Ask you question on Repeater-Builder Yahoo Group.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top