Midland 75-822 Question.

[JohnnyFingers]

I want to replace the rubber duck on this radio with a longer telescopic antenna. My question is would a modern radio like this have an internal inductor? Can I use a regular telescopic antenna or should I buy a centre loaded telescopic antenna? Thank you in advance.

 

[JohnnyFingers]

Sorry the title should be "Midland 75-822" not 823

 

[arudlang]

Not sure what the question about an internal inductor refers to, I am not an expert, but it stands to reason that any antenna you try to use with that unit must be an antenna actually designed to be used around the 27 MHz range.

The 75-822 comes with the car kit that has the standard SO239 connector for use with whatever mobile antenna you might have on a vehicle and it will work with any regular CB antenna. What an internal inductor would have to do with anything is outside of my knowledge, maybe I'll learn something later as more discussion comes to this thread.

My impression is that the center-loaded telescoping antennas you see for sale about 48-52 inches long would probably work great with this handheld, other than that it might put a lot of force on the BNC connector when waving around.

 

[JohnnyFingers]

Sorry Arudlang, I was meaning an internal coil. So you're saying a telescopic antenna that says it's intended for 27 megahertz I should be ok? Thank you for your response.

 

[arudlang]

I don't know for sure but I have no reason to believe they would have put a coil in this radio.

I don't have any direct experience with any of these but most likely this type of thing is what you are talking about, some of them directly say they work with the 75-822:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VF563FB/

https://www.amazon.com/HYS-Handheld-Portable-Connector-Compatible/dp/B0882HPQS1/

https://www.amazon.com/HYS-Telescopic-51-97-inch-Connector-Compatible/dp/B09BBGM7ZT/

https://www.amazon.com/HYSHIKRA-51inches-Telescopic-MRHH350FLT-Transceiver/dp/B093DBNS8V/

Going deeper into reviews might sus out a good performer for that handheld.

I could not find any telescoping antenna that was actually center loaded and had the BNC connector. Some of my older handhelds have permanently fixed center-load antennas about 4 feet long and they work well though.

Generally longer is better but like I said, I'd be nervous of a 4+ foot antenna cranking on the BNC connector.

If I needed to use mine on-foot but also truly needed max range I think I'd be sticking a 2 to 4 foot no-ground-plane "firestik" in my backpack and hooking it up using the car kit and a 7-12 ah battery in the backpack or something similar. Doubt it would really extend the range all that much though. Maybe a whip and some trailing counterpoise... it's not so hard to receive with the 75-822 but hard to "get out there" very far for some reason. Kind of a weak unit.

 

[JohnnyFingers]

I was looking at those exact antennas but I wasn't sure if they were ok to use with my radio. Thank you so much for your help with this arudlang.

 

[arudlang]

Let us know which one you get and whether you note any improvement.

I swapped out the stock "rubber duck" style antenna for a much more flexible one that is still only an 8 inch short antenna. I never really even gave the stock antenna a try, but my flexible replacement struggles to transmit more than a couple miles at best. I tried to return a 6 mile call from my brother with mine while on the roof of a tall house yesterday and had no luck. I have reached him before from that rooftop with a classic TRC-217 with its 52 inch antenna, but that was also winter where there was no foliage on the trees so not a fair comparison. Either way though, the Midland 75-822 is no miracle signal thrower in my experience so far. It's just-OK for short range line of sight use. Little disappointed in the convoluted controls and not over the moon for it's audio quality either. Convenient package, at least.

 

[slowmover]

I’d try the 42” folding Abbree .
RX folded, but no TX unless extended.

A CB walkie-talkie is what it is unless stationary with standard antenna.

I tried to cover some of the same ground with the Randy in some related threads recently. (Wondering aloud kind of thing).

With a UNIDEN mobile in the car:

1). To 100’ from mobile:
Uniden Wireless Mic

2) Then to 1,2,3 miles, etc
Prez Randy

— Vox mic makes Randy attractive

I looked into HOW to carry, WHAT to carry to get the most from a true portable. More than one antenna. I started this thinking on 885 Mobile thread and started another thread attendant to that.

The other Randy threads have some info. Same for any other portable. Search by brand name.

Good luck.

 

[JohnnyFingers]

I don't know for sure but I have no reason to believe they would have put a coil in this radio.

I don't have any direct experience with any of these but most likely this type of thing is what you are talking about, some of them directly say they work with the 75-822:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VF563FB/

https://www.amazon.com/HYS-Handheld-Portable-Connector-Compatible/dp/B0882HPQS1/

https://www.amazon.com/HYS-Telescopic-51-97-inch-Connector-Compatible/dp/B09BBGM7ZT/

https://www.amazon.com/HYSHIKRA-51inches-Telescopic-MRHH350FLT-Transceiver/dp/B093DBNS8V/

Going deeper into reviews might sus out a good performer for that handheld.

I could not find any telescoping antenna that was actually center loaded and had the BNC connector. Some of my older handhelds have permanently fixed center-load antennas about 4 feet long and they work well though.

Generally longer is better but like I said, I'd be nervous of a 4+ foot antenna cranking on the BNC connector.

If I needed to use mine on-foot but also truly needed max range I think I'd be sticking a 2 to 4 foot no-ground-plane "firestik" in my backpack and hooking it up using the car kit and a 7-12 ah battery in the backpack or something similar. Doubt it would really extend the range all that much though. Maybe a whip and some trailing counterpoise... it's not so hard to receive with the 75-822 but hard to "get out there" very far for some reason. Kind of a weak unit.

With your help I looked at the above antennas but ialso noticed this one in the link brlow. I haven't purchased it yet as i wondered if you could give me your opinion on it. Again thank you.

ABBREE 27Mhz BNC Retractable/Telescopic 9.17/51-Inch Antenna for Handheld CB Radio Full Kit with PL-259 Connector Mobile/Car Radio Antenna for Midland Cobra Uniden Maxon President Car CB Radio : Amazon.ca: Electronics

ABBREE 27Mhz BNC Retractable/Telescopic 9.17/51-Inch Antenna for Handheld CB Radio Full Kit with PL-259 Connector Mobile/Car Radio Antenna for Midland Cobra Uniden Maxon President Car CB Radio : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

 

[slowmover]

With your help I looked at the above antennas but ialso noticed this one in the link brlow. I haven't purchased it yet as i wondered if you could give me your opinion on it. Again thank you.

ABBREE 27Mhz BNC Retractable/Telescopic 9.17/51-Inch Antenna for Handheld CB Radio Full Kit with PL-259 Connector Mobile/Car Radio Antenna for Midland Cobra Uniden Maxon President Car CB Radio : Amazon.ca: Electronics

ABBREE 27Mhz BNC Retractable/Telescopic 9.17/51-Inch Antenna for Handheld CB Radio Full Kit with PL-259 Connector Mobile/Car Radio Antenna for Midland Cobra Uniden Maxon President Car CB Radio : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

How are you intending to use it? I’ll assume mobile for the comments below.

— That telescoping antenna is going to fail it hits anything.

So, for a portable radio in use as a mobile (vehicle), an adaptor BNC-UHF of the right spec will allow the use of any typical CB coax plus antenna as arudlang noted in Post #3

I’d sure take that route over the linked item.

A WILSON 500 would be a minimum as a packaged magnetic antenna system I’d consider (I’d rather spend more and have the 5000).


You have in hand the less important of a CB Radio system:

1). The coax/antenna system is chief.

2). The power system is second.

3). What gear you plug into these two is third.

Now, if it’s not a mobile system you have in mind, the longer flex antennas for walking around look good to me.

If you’re thinking about use while camping, say, then a dipole (and other choices) where you can get it up in the air would still be a better choice than the linked antenna.

I don’t see the linked item as being “good” for anything given what’s available (or that you can DIY).

— It’s a good question to have asked and gotten out of the way. It has a magnet and it has attached coax, but the antenna whip is an inferior part (lacks robustness & performance via height).

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[JohnnyFingers]

My primary use would be handheld (walking around) I only picked ghe linked one to get the antenna and the BNC to PL259 adapter. I already have a mag mount antenna that came with thd radio.

 

[slowmover]

Adapter can be had from HRO, DXEngineering and others.

 

[arudlang]

I think that one you found is maybe worth a try, especially at the price (only about $13 USD it looks like)

It does stand out to me though that it does not have a center load like my permanent 51" telescopic antennas on my old TRC handhelds, so I kinda doubt it will have as good of performance but surely better than the stock antenna, and with the wire/extension you can eliminate the issue of putting pressure on the BNC connector of the radio. Then again if you are going to use an extension of coax I think my preference would still be a fiberglass antenna in the 3-4 foot range... You can't (shouldn't) physically hold that antenna you linked while transmitting and you likely will interfere with reception holding it as well, I think you would want to be strapping it to like a backpack in which case it comes with far too much coax and then you have to try to figure-8 coil that so it doesn't create a choke accidently, etc.... Using the antenna directly on the radio should be fine as long as you are careful with it.

If I wanted max range with my 75-822 while walking around I still think my move would be to strap a 3 or 4 foot fiberglass antenna to my backpack, connect to it with the car kit base of the 75-822 and run a small 12v battery in my backpack. (Maybe a small italian kicker too, if I really want to be heard...) Most of those antennas would need an adapter though since they are typically a 3/8-Inch x 24 thread at their base. Where there is a will there is a way, though.

 

[slowmover]

I think that one you found is maybe worth a try, especially at the price (only about $13 USD it looks like)

It does stand out to me though that it does not have a center load like my permanent 51" telescopic antennas on my old TRC handhelds, so I kinda doubt it will have as good of performance but surely better than the stock antenna, and with the wire/extension you can eliminate the issue of putting pressure on the BNC connector of the radio. Then again if you are going to use an extension of coax I think my preference would still be a fiberglass antenna in the 3-4 foot range... You can't (shouldn't) physically hold that antenna you linked while transmitting and you likely will interfere with reception holding it as well, I think you would want to be strapping it to like a backpack in which case it comes with far too much coax and then you have to try to figure-8 coil that so it doesn't create a choke accidently, etc.... Using the antenna directly on the radio should be fine as long as you are careful with it.

If I wanted max range with my 75-822 while walking around I still think my move would be to strap a 3 or 4 foot fiberglass antenna to my backpack, connect to it with the car kit base of the 75-822 and run a small 12v battery in my backpack. (Maybe a small italian kicker too, if I really want to be heard...) Most of those antennas would need an adapter though since they are typically a 3/8-Inch x 24 thread at their base. Where there is a will there is a way, though.

— Randy looks preferable in the role described, IMO.

— VOX mic/speaker takes it over the top. (Look to see if this one compatible).

— Headset for either might be best for lowest battery drain.

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[JohnnyFingers]

I think that one you found is maybe worth a try, especially at the price (only about $13 USD it looks like)

It does stand out to me though that it does not have a center load like my permanent 51" telescopic antennas on my old TRC handhelds, so I kinda doubt it will have as good of performance but surely better than the stock antenna, and with the wire/extension you can eliminate the issue of putting pressure on the BNC connector of the radio. Then again if you are going to use an extension of coax I think my preference would still be a fiberglass antenna in the 3-4 foot range... You can't (shouldn't) physically hold that antenna you linked while transmitting and you likely will interfere with reception holding it as well, I think you would want to be strapping it to like a backpack in which case it comes with far too much coax and then you have to try to figure-8 coil that so it doesn't create a choke accidently, etc.... Using the antenna directly on the radio should be fine as long as you are careful with it.

If I wanted max range with my 75-822 while walking around I still think my move would be to strap a 3 or 4 foot fiberglass antenna to my backpack, connect to it with the car kit base of the 75-822 and run a small 12v battery in my backpack. (Maybe a small italian kicker too, if I really want to be heard...) Most of those antennas would need an adapter though since they are typically a 3/8-Inch x 24 thread at their base. Where there is a will there is a way, though.

I couldn't find a centre loaded telescopic antenna that had a BNC connector.

 

[slowmover]

BNC to SO-239

 

[prcguy]

There is no antenna loading coil in the radio, any external 27MHz resonant antenna will work. I've purchased antennas from this guy and the quality is good. I had a CB/10M SSB hand held radio and with this antenna I made a contact to the UK from Long Beach, CA with 6 watts on 10M.

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I would avoid any antennas from ABBREE, they are junk and will fall apart.

I was looking at those exact antennas but I wasn't sure if they were ok to use with my radio. Thank you so much for your help with this arudlang.

 

[slowmover]

There is no antenna loading coil in the radio, any external 27MHz resonant antenna will work. I've purchased antennas from this guy and the quality is good. I had a CB/10M SSB hand held radio and with this antenna I made a contact to the UK from Long Beach, CA with 6 watts on 10M.

27MHz - 28MHz CB Ham 11/10Meter Band HF QRP Handy Compact BNC Telescopic Antenna | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 27MHz - 28MHz CB Ham 11/10Meter Band HF QRP Handy Compact BNC Telescopic Antenna at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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I would avoid any antennas from ABBREE, they are junk and will fall apart.

Thx for the heads up on ABBREE

 

[slowmover]

MIDLAND 22540 Headset/Microphone

The radio in discussion. WALCOTT has it.