Miss Fire and MDC1200

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anyone have any idea how the MDC1200 works and possible setting for use with Miss Fire so i could listen to only a few stations calls? Just trying to understand how it works and possible settings...
 

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Each station has a radio (MCS2000 I think) set for MDC Call Alert Decode. Those MDC bursts you hear are Call Alerting the radio in the station. This triggers an external relay and alarm at the station (IIRC, it sets off bells/klaxon and opens the doors).

Toronto Fire has a similar system but it's done using MOSCAD.
 

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You never quit when it comes to any Emergency service in Peel do you?

You got nailed when you streamed Police and Fire, you got nailed when you decoded the Fire Department POCSAG pages and posted it to a public webpage, and now you want to decode the Fire Department station alerting pages?

Let me know how it works out for you. Just hope Mississauga Fire doesn't have any station paging problems in the next little while.
 

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ve3nsv said:
You never quit when it comes to any Emergency service in Peel do you?

You got nailed when you streamed Police and Fire, you got nailed when you decoded the Fire Department POCSAG pages and posted it to a public webpage, and now you want to decode the Fire Department station alerting pages?

Let me know how it works out for you. Just hope Mississauga Fire doesn't have any station paging problems in the next little while.


I never got nailed by anybody! Police asked me, NOT forced me to remove the online feed, I was never NAILED for pager decoding!

It would appear you have yet to read this thread...
http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77589

I would never interfere with the operations of Fire or any other Emergency service, I am not a wacker!

If you haven't got anything positive to say why say anything at all? What is the point of this Forum if you can't ask questions without being bashed?
 

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Nothing wrong with just decoding, except no scanner or software is going to decode the MDC call alerts. The only thing that will decode the call alerts will be a properly programmed commercial radio, the same radio could be used to cause malicious on the system.

It doesn't take a lot of searching to know that he was looking for the exact radio that Mississauga FIre uses as Mike described.

Chrome69 said:
Looking for a 800mhz type II MCS2000 must be in good condition and be willing to ship to toronto canada... Money order or western union transfer for payment, i do NOT use paypal

Email me with offers, model number and photo(s) of your actual unit please...

mailto:chrome69@gmail.com
Brian


Not saying that Chrome69 has any intention of doing anything other then decdong the station pages. Just given his whole history with the various emergency services in the Region of Peel I wouldn't have figured he wouldn't have wanted any additional attention especially on this forum where I am sure they read on a regular basis.



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How could they have problems if all hes doing is decoding?
 

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ve3nsv said:
Nothing wrong with just decoding, except no scanner or software is going to decode the MDC call alerts. The only thing that will decode the call alerts will be a properly programmed commercial radio, the same radio could be used to cause malicious on the system.

It doesn't take a lot of searching to know that he was looking for the exact radio that Mississauga FIre uses as Mike described.

Not saying that Chrome69 has any intention of doing anything other then decdong the station pages. Just given his whole history with the various emergency services in the Region of Peel I wouldn't have figured he wouldn't have wanted any additional attention especially on this forum where I am sure they read on a regular basis.

Actually an MCS2000 doesn't do MDC codes,(I have one) and I could be wrong but I believe that most stations are equipped with CDM1550's ... This radio will do the alert decoding.. But you knew that Terry as you know it all...

What history? I was interested in learning how it works and it was answered by exkalibur!

Terry STOP making a big production out of BS, you don't know what happened with me and Peel Police, so STOP accusing or implying things!
 

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Chrome69 said:
anyone have any idea how the MDC1200 works and possible setting for use with Miss Fire so i could listen to only a few stations calls? Just trying to understand how it works and possible settings...

Didn't you already ask this question some time ago on Scanont, and you were told then that it wasn't feasible?
 

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Chrome69 said:
Actually an MCS2000 doesn't do MDC codes

I guess I should tell my MCS2000 to stop transmitting MDC when I transmit, and stop responding to MDC Call Alerts when it's paged by my CDM1250, eh?

Terry, just to clear it (not trying to defend anyone...) They use MDC Call Alerts on UHF, not 800MHz so that MCS he was looking for won't do it. But still.

With respect to PRP asking you to take down the feed - it wasn't a matter of you volunteering, it was a matter of being voluntold. If I play music in my apartment too loudly at night, the Police are going to "ask" me to turn it down. But if I don't, you can bet your backside they'll do something about it. Same deal there - they asked you, but if you didn't comply, I'm more than sure they'd find a reason to turn it off forcibly.
 

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ve3nsv said:
Nothing wrong with just decoding, except no scanner or software is going to decode the MDC call alerts.

WinMDCD is software that will decode all sorts of MDC messages.

chrome69 said:
Actually an MCS2000 doesn't do MDC codes,(I have one)

Actually, you just don't have proper options installed in yours.

My MCS2000 decodes and encodes MDC without any problems.
 

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Mike_Oxlong said:
WinMDCD is software that will decode all sorts of MDC messages.



Actually, you just don't have proper options installed in yours.

My MCS2000 decodes and encodes MDC without any problems.

Well in any rate my MCS is 800mhz so that doesn't matter and yes Mike i found that software and played with it a bit. Guess i would need the Lab version of software to open it up for MDC but again its useless anyways as its an 800mhz and i would require a UHF. I do have a CDM but think i will just stick with the software for now...


Mike Lock this thread down, i really don't want a flame war... My question has been answered.

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Mike_Oxlong said:
WinMDCD is software that will decode all sorts of MDC messages.

I have played with WinMDCD before but didn't know it would decode call alerts, radio checks and emergencies? I thought it was good for plain old pre and post MDC ID's?

Chrome69 said:
Actually an MCS2000 doesn't do MDC codes,(I have one) and I could be wrong but I believe that most stations are equipped with CDM1550's ... This radio will do the alert decoding..

Actually like the MCS2000, not all CDM1550's will do MDC encode and decode. The CDM1550LS+ model will only do MDC on an LTR personality, not on a Conventional or Passport Personality.

But you knew that Terry as you know it all...

I am far from knowing everything, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)

Like you I am learning daily, been in Amateur Radio for 15 years and have a 1 1/2 years experiencing working for a Motorola dealer. All I know is if Waterloo Regional Police had expressed interest in my day to day actions and asked me to stop decoding and publishing paging information to a public webapge and asked to kill my online stream. The last thing I would be doing is asking how to decode yet another mode of communications that Peel Region uses on the very Forum that you most likely got busted on in the first place.

End of story for me, I am just a spectator from here on in. :)
 

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ve3nsv said:
End of story for me, I am just a spectator from here on in. :)

Thats just it, its a story.... You don't know the facts, so how you can comment on something you don't know about is beyond me!

For the record, NO ONE told me to stop decoding pages or posting them on a web site! Where you got that info is beyond me...... :roll:
 

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Well then why does it hit a nerve everytime somebody brings it up? I was pointing out that you need to be more discrete and you blew a gasket. I am not out to bash you, I just feel you are going way out of your way to give Peel a reason to go with encryption with all the attention you have attracted over the last year.

Ooops, forgot I wasn't going to post anymore.
 

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And of course your not helping matters by bringing it up yet again! Plus fabricating information and being somewhat slanderous...

Maybe a PM may have been alot more discreet? You think?

Maybe you can run a full page ad in the Globe and Mail.
Maybe you can write a letter to Peel Police and voice your concerns...

Seeing what i do and or say bothers you so much from Kitchener.. God forbid I may actually want to learn something and have a step up on you Terry!
 

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Chrome69 said:
And of course your not helping matters by bringing it up yet again! Plus fabricating information and being somewhat slanderous...

In what way was I slanderous? Everything I have said here is untrue? Do you really want me to dig up every thread related to your woes with Peel PD and Fire?

Maybe a PM may have been alot more discreet? You think?

Maybe just asking on Batlabs about decoding MDC call alerts would have been more discrete then asking here HOW TO DECODE MISSISSAUGA FIRE STATION PAGES.

Maybe you can run a full page ad in the Globe and Mail.
Maybe you can write a letter to Peel Police and voice your concerns...

Maybe one day you will turn your scanner on and not hear anything due to them going with encryption because somebody just wouldn't learn.

Seeing what i do and or say bothers you so much from Kitchener.. God forbid I may actually want to learn something and have a step up on you Terry!

Seems you haven't learned your lesson from your previous history with Peel, what makes you think this will be any different? My only concern here from Kitchener is you give Scanner listeners and Ham radio operators a bad rap.
 

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I have made a copy of this thread, and sent a copy to my Lawyer, Terry my only suggestion to you sir is "Get a Lawyer" I will see you in court!
 

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Oh for f***ks sake,

This is what it has come to
My 7 year old has way more sense than this
Court costs, lawyers fees for this sh*t

What a complete & utter waste of time
all rought to you by stubborness, insecurity and immaturity
killing billions since the beginning of time
 
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