Motorola MTSX RSS ver 6.8

[daviderea]

Anyone have any information as to why im getting "codeplug to new" when trying to read a MT2000 radio?
I believe it is because I am currently using MTSX RSS ver 6.7 software in DOS on my computer, and the radio was written with a newer version.
Am I correct in assuming I need to use MTSX RSS ver 6.8 to read/write programming?
Other than than using MTSX labs to do a workaround, with a new codeplug....any other suggestions to read/write to this radio?

Any help is appreciated,

 

[chrismol1]

Yes, you'll need RVN4097 MTSX R06.08.00 the final release which is still a 2005 dos program of all things

 

[RBMTS]

Chris, isn't there CPS for the MTS series also? It's been a while but I thought there was. If his radio was programmed in CPS, then even R06.08 would still give him the error (as I remember).

 

[kayn1n32008]

Chris, isn't there CPS for the MTS series also? It's been a while but I thought there was. If his radio was programmed in CPS, then even R06.08 would still give him the error (as I remember).

There is Windows CPS for the MTS series. There is not Windows CPS for the MT series. The MT2000 looks identical to the MTS2000, the difference is that the MT2000 series was not flash port upgradable.

 

[RBMTS]

I see that now. My eyes were focused on the MTSX RSS topic and I didn't see the OP was trying to program an MT. I totally skipped over that very important element of the conversation.

 

[daviderea]

Thank you! That’s what I was thinking. Any ideas where I can find MTSX RSS 6.8? I’ve called all my local shops and no one has anything like RVN4097 left around. Because of Covid all the HAM get togethers are postponed, with unknown next events. I’ll keep on searching, any direction or information is much appreciated. I’m trying to program a few of these donated radios for our local ski patrol. We could use the additional communication capabilities.

 

[dfb8085]

I would like to know also exactly the set up needed to talk to the mts2000. I have a serial port able using on usb converter on a xp machine. Now can anyone share the steps to secure the correct parts to make this happen. I have tried multiple versions of RSS and it just will not talk to the radio. Please somebody help me out. I am days and hours into this thing and it really wearing me down

 

[RBMTS]

For RSS, you need to be in a 100% DOS environment (meaning that you don't run RSS in a DOS window while booted up on Windows XP. You also should be using a PC that has a legacy DB9 or DB25 serial port. Additionally your machine processor might be too fast. I've had random problems running RSS programs on a 486 CPU based machine and had to use a DOS program that slows down the processor. But your big factors are working in a full DOS environment and having good serial ports.

 

[Chance]

Your question is on the MTS2000 vs the OP's question on an MT2000. For the MTS2000, you need a 32-bit version of Windows with CPS. Or you can run a Virtual Machine under Windows or Linux of a 32-bit Windows OS. There are no speed issues with the Windows version. Forget about running RSS unless you want to boot up with a DOS disk. And even then you will need a real serial port. DOS knows nothing about USB.

I have had good luck with the Ribless cables. I have also built my own cable to upgrade the firmware. Unless there is an actual hardware failure, there is not a single MTS2000 that I have not been able to recover, upgrade flash, and program. If you need help, send it my way. Happy to program and send back, no charge as I do it for fun.

I would like to know also exactly the set up needed to talk to the mts2000. I have a serial port able using on usb converter on a xp machine. Now can anyone share the steps to secure the correct parts to make this happen. I have tried multiple versions of RSS and it just will not talk to the radio. Please somebody help me out. I am days and hours into this thing and it really wearing me down

 

[dfb8085]

Thanks for the response. I had much rather use the CPS as opposed to the RSS. I have no idea of how many software programs I have tried to establish comm with the radio but the most current one is RSS ver 6.0 . I don't want to ask anything that will get me booted but what version of CPS is the absolute correct one? Also if needed can you email me information on where i can get it. dfb8085 at aol dot com

 

[Chance]

For the MTSX series of CPS, R02.03.00 was the last version. I believe the second hand market is the only place to get it since Motorola ended support for this series many years ago. There are legitimate CD's out there for sale but even then, buyer beware on if your technically have a right to transfer the software.

You may be wondering about alternative software. This radio will never be able to be programmed in an application like Chirp as the CodePlug is too sophisticated to most modern ham radios, even for being over 20 years old. I have an application that I have been working on to edit the Code Plug. But it is light years away from being complete and will likely never get finished before the radio truly has no value whatsoever. If you are into reading code, my progress can be found at lf73/JediComlink

I have been using an emulator to fool CPS into thinking it is talking to a real radio. Then I make one change at a time in an attempt to map out the codeplug. It's actually quite fun, but just not enough hours in the day.

 

[ke4mmp]

For the MTSX series of CPS, R02.03.00 was the last version. I believe the second hand market is the only place to get it since Motorola ended support for this series many years ago. There are legitimate CD's out there for sale but even then, buyer beware on if your technically have a right to transfer the software.

You may be wondering about alternative software. This radio will never be able to be programmed in an application like Chirp as the CodePlug is too sophisticated to most modern ham radios, even for being over 20 years old. I have an application that I have been working on to edit the Code Plug. But it is light years away from being complete and will likely never get finished before the radio truly has no value whatsoever. If you are into reading code, my progress can be found at lf73/JediComlink

I have been using an emulator to fool CPS into thinking it is talking to a real radio. Then I make one change at a time in an attempt to map out the codeplug. It's actually quite fun, but just not enough hours in the day.

Can I have your email sir I am also having an issues connecting my MTS to CPS. Both with Rib and Ribless connectors. I would really appreciate any advise that you can share.
KE4MMP

 

[Chance]

@ke4mmp, Best to start a new thread with your question. Posted in public will likely solicit the collective knowledge from many of those here and your issue could likely help someone else out.

 

[ke4mmp]

@ke4mmp, Best to start a new thread with your question. Posted in public will likely solicit the collective knowledge from many of those here and your issue could likely help someone else out.

I do have a separate thread started. But I’m an having a similar issue.

 

[bravo0122]

It is recommend using current CPS R02.03.00, If you using lower version programming software, You will brick your radio. (FAIL01/93)

 

[n7maq-1]

I'm fairly certain that RSS 6.70 and 6.80 are backwards compatible unlike most other RSS. I have 6.70 on my DOS machine.

Jim

 

[n7maq-1]

It is recommend using current CPS R02.03.00, If you using lower version programming software, You will brick your radio. (FAIL01/93)

This is not always the case, Motorola had some issues that (IIRC it was when rebanding the 800MHz units) and they issued a stand alone patch to restore the error. There is also a MTS Depot CPS 2.02.00 and it works fine with the 2.03.00 codeplug radios, with that you need an SRIB to restore a "bricked" radio.

But as Bravo said, use the 2.03.00 and I will ad an OEM RIB and Cable. If you don't have a true RS232 port only use an FTDI converter.

Jim

 

[Chance]

All true, but the person that resurrected this thread is using CPS, and then resurrected prior. The OP needed RSS for a MT2000. The others using the MTS2000 should positively be using CPS for any legitimate purpose.

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[talviar]

I'm fairly certain that RSS 6.70 and 6.80 are backwards compatible unlike most other RSS. I have 6.70 on my DOS machine.

Jim

Nope... 6.07 will not read/write a radio programming with 6.08 DOS RSS.... most users didn't use 6.08 unless radios went to DEPOT for service and were hit with the newer tuner in 6.08.....