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Motorola XTS5000 how to UNPROGRAM

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Briar51rabbit

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I have a odd situation I need some help on how to UN-program a xts5000.
I recently bought one on Ebay and when it got here it was still programmed from the last user.
I have the programming software it just I am not that familiar with Motorola yet. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
 

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Not that odd, happens all the time with stolen radios...how legitimate was your buyer?
 

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It seemed pretty legitimate the seller had a really high I guess it would be called a Ebay number.
I hope its not a stolen radio.
 

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No reason to think it's stolen. When a system is torn down there is no reason to deprogram the subscribers. You need the software obviously. If it has been programmed with a trunking system that requires a key then that will be a bigger hassle.
 

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What's your plan with it? I would just add in my new programming around it and go on.
 

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It’s very easy to delete the old systems off of the radio. The only reason you need a system key is to edit the existing trunking system or to add a new trunking system to the codeplug.

Deleting the old info is easy, it’s just time consuming. By default, Motorola radios require at least one generic entry per section in the tree. “Tree” meaning the left hand side of the screen on the computer after you’ve “read” the radio. It’s like an index. Each line will have an drop down menu of subsections that you can edit. Your best option is to add the new info you want in the radio and then start deleting the old info. You will inevitably end up with lots of errors to begin with as you start whittling down the old info. You will need to go into each tree section and delete items associated with the old systems section by section and line by line. If it’s a small system, it may only take you a few minutes. If it’s a large system it could take more time. The most important thing you can do is SAVE the original codeplug and name it as such. This way, should you end up with unrecoverable error in the new codeplug, you can write the original codeplug back to the radio and start over. Never, ever, ever read the radio and immediately begin to edit the original codeplug. If you brick the radio, you’ll have nothing more than a fancy paperweight.


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I guess that's what I'll do just put in my stuff and enjoy it.

I would avoid this method. While the seller may be legit, the radio COULD potentially have info in it from a system that’s still in operation. Not likely, but possible. You don’t want to risk your radio trying to affiliate or gain access to an in use system that could potentially cause problems for other users on that system.


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If the radio is on a system in your area don't attach the antenna untill you remove the trunking systems, or the radio could affiliate and then get bricked. It happens all the time I have even gotten radios with encryption keys still loaded when bought at Govt auctions. I delete in following order. Zones,Scan lists, MDC,QCII,Trunked personality, Trunked systems,Conventional personalities. Then to get rid of the last Trunked system add new one which will always be 0 (zero) unless you have a system key.
Unless you have the Dark Side program (LxB) and just load a new codeplug in it.
 

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I will give it a try , one good thing is the system that is in it is way down in Georgia so it trying to affiliate shouldn't be a problem. But I really Would like to clean it out just for my peace of mind if nothing else.
 

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I have went through and deleted all zones and channels personalities but the trunked system it wont let me add a new one so I can delete the old one is there something I am missing ?
 

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You shouldn’t have any trouble adding a new default system. Keep in mind that unless you have a system key, then you will have to leave the new system at its default settings. When you click on the trunking system tab and it opens up the trunking system, at the bottom of the page you will click on the “+” tab at the bottom of the page and it will add a new default system to the list.


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It wont let me add one the " + " tab is not highlighted even the Delete " X " tab is not highlighted its like it is locked out.
 

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Are you going to use it for conventional?


Just don't assign any trunked settings to your zones, scan you'll be fine.

Seen smaller entities either forget to remove stuff, remove ids from system, or tear a old one down and leave the old subscribers as is if the old system is nothing close to new.

If you'd like send me a copy of your plug. I'll see what I can do.
 

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Can you take a picture of the screen with the X and + you’re referring to and post it in this thread. Just want to make sure you are in the right section.


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I couldn't get the picture to load. But where I am at is under Trunking > Trunking System > Trunking System 1 . If that helps?
 

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I couldn't get the picture to load. But where I am at is under Trunking > Trunking System > Trunking System 1 . If that helps?

That’s where you should be. I’ll offer the same help as others have. Shoot me a PM and I’ll take a look at your codeplug and see what I can come up with. It’s possible the radio has an ASK. There are ways around that. But, if all you are using it for is conventional, I would t worry about it. Just make sure you don’t accidentally access the trunked channels on the radio



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Thanks for every bodies help ,for now Ill just leave that one system in and see what happens.
I do have one more quick question on the radio when I go to start putting in my conventional frequencies in a zone it wont take the 700mhz frequencies is there a setting in the programming that needs to be changed the radio is a 700/800 mhz radio.
 
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