Motorola XTS5000 - WHERE to enter conventional frequencies??

[Airsoftlike]

Hello,
I have a medium experience with programming Motorola MTS2000 and XTS3000 series.
I was able to successfully program buttons, scan lists, channels and zones with those radios.

Recently I have got a couple of Motorola XTS5000 UHF radios.
When I'm trying to program them using ASTRO 25 Portable CPS R17.01.02 - I simply cannot find WHERE can I enter Receive and Transmit Frequencies in Conventional Personalities.

It was very easy to find them in MTS2000 Radio CPS R02.03.00.
There was a tab "Generel" with Receive and Transmit Frequencies.
But I cannot find similar tab here in the ASTRO 25 Portable CPS R17.01.02.
Please help, what am I doing wrong?

 

[sfd119]

Once you create the Personality, you need to go under Zone Channel Assignment and then go under "Channels".

 

[Mikek]

Open up the Zone Channel Assignment on the tree. Should be at the bottom.

In the XTS radios, the frequency data is independent of the personality.

 

[902]

What SFD119 said.

Your personalities define how that particular mode behaves, like digital, analog, MDC, no MDC, etc. The frequencies come in a separate list.

The XTS-3000 needed 14 pages of stuff to be filled out for each and every frequency used in the radio. It's a hassle if you're doing 16 channels, but if you're doing multiple zones and 160 or more channels, it can take all week to enter and get right. In the XTS-5000, you create a few modes based on your system requirements, then just put the frequencies into the list. It's much quicker and easier.

 

[Airsoftlike]

Went to Conventional Personality. Created default Personality №4.
Rx Voice/Signal Type selected Mixed Mode.
Rx Voice/Signal Type selected Non-Astro.
Nothing else touched.
Tab Frequency Options shows Rx Frequency = 403.025 and Tx Frequency = 403.050 both in gray, cannot change them - is that okay?

Went to the Zone Channel Assignment, created channel №8 Conventional, entered Receive and Transmit Frequencies both 430.000.
Entered Personality №4.

Writed successful. Turned on my Wouxun (this is the second sample radio). Tried to transmit my voice on 430.000 - no response from Motorola. Tried to transmit from Motorola on channel №8 - no response from Wouxun and Motorola says "TOOOOOOO....." while I am pressing down the PTT button...

 

[N4KVE]

It was quite a shock for me when I got my 1st 5000. After doing MTS2000's, & XTS3000's for years, & entering freq's in the personality section, & sorting them out in zone/channel section, it was a huge change. Now personality is just a few settings, & all the work is in the zone/channel section. You'll get used to it.

 

[Mikek]

There are a number of things that could be causing what you're seeing.

Can you post your codeplug and I'll take a look at it. Also - give me a channel or two that you want set up and I'll do that for you to help you get started.

 

[Airsoftlike]

There are a number of things that could be causing what you're seeing.

Can you post your codeplug and I'll take a look at it. Also - give me a channel or two that you want set up and I'll do that for you to help you get started.

I just need you to add a sample channel №9, that will work lets say on the frequency 430.000 with any Kenwood-type simple radios. Codeplug attached.

 

[902]

Went to Conventional Personality. Created default Personality №4.
Rx Voice/Signal Type selected Mixed Mode.
Rx Voice/Signal Type selected Non-Astro.
Nothing else touched.
Tab Frequency Options shows Rx Frequency = 403.025 and Tx Frequency = 403.050 both in gray, cannot change them - is that okay?

Went to the Zone Channel Assignment, created channel №8 Conventional, entered Receive and Transmit Frequencies both 430.000.
Entered Personality №4.

Writed successful. Turned on my Wouxun (this is the second sample radio). Tried to transmit my voice on 430.000 - no response from Motorola. Tried to transmit from Motorola on channel №8 - no response from Wouxun and Motorola says "TOOOOOOO....." while I am pressing down the PTT button...

That almost sounds like you are trying to program a trunked system and are "bonked out" of the system (because you don't have a trunked system to affiliate into). Or, you may have programmed a talkaround frequency, but not an actual TX frequency. Short of asking for screenshots, the help menu is your friend.

 

[FFPM571]

you create a personality then go into zone and build a zone and then assign a personality to each freq in the zone.... Its all in the help section

 

[Mikek]

I made a couple of tweaks...

Channel 9 is 430.000, analog TX and RX with NO PL or DPL.

Give this a try.

 

[Airsoftlike]

I made a couple of tweaks...

Channel 9 is 430.000, analog TX and RX with NO PL or DPL.

Give this a try.

Looks like you have programmed it with CPS which has a higher version than my ASTRO 25 Portable CPS R17.01.02..
I receive "The current CPS version cannot support this codeplug as it is not compatible with this release."

 

[Mikek]

Dang - I do have a later version. Sorry about that. I'm not near the programming computer right now but from memory, I set up a new channel, ensured that PL/DPL was set to CSQ on both transmit and receive and then made some tweaks to personality #4 - Make sure that your Squelch option is set to "Standard" on the RX menu, and your TX option is set to non-astro. The rest of the tabs should be mostly greyed out or disabled as you don't need anything from them for a simplex, analog tx/rx operations.

You had some other settings that were questionable, so I set them to what I know to work.