Multi-Mode and Multi-Band Portables

[human8472]

What are the various multi band and multi mode portable radios that are actually in existence and not vaporware?

I know of the Tait tp9900 which covers VHF, UHF, and 700/800/900 MHz and supports both Analog, P25 and DMR. What other portables are out there for Kenwood, Harris, Motorola, and others?

 

[mmckenna]

Kenwood/EFJohnson VP8000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, DMR (and supposed to eventually add NXDN).

Multimode if you count Analog:
Harris XL-200P: VHF, UHF, 700/800/900MHz, WiFi and LTE. Analog and P25
Tait TP9800: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog and P25
Bendix King BKR9000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog and P25
Motorola APX-8000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, WiFi
Motorola APX-Next: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, WiFi, LTE
There is some older stuff, like the Thales Liberty, but that's almost 20 years ago.

Not going to mention the Military stuff.

Or the Chinese toys.

 

[buddrousa]

If you take out the Multimode part the Kenwood NX-5000 Series Analog NXDN DMR and P25 in Conventional and Trunking configurations.

 

[AM909]

If you take out the Multimode part the Kenwood NX-5000 Series Analog NXDN DMR and P25 in Conventional and Trunking configurations.

The NX-5x00 are not multi-band, though they are multi-mode, as are many others.

 

[buddrousa]

As stated in the first 6 words

 

[AM909]

As stated in the first 6 words

Agree to disagree, I guess.

 

[GTR8000]

As stated in the first 6 words

Your first 6 words were "If you take out the Multimode" (part), but the NX series is multi-mode capable. They are not multi-band capable. You misspoke, then doubled down on it. Crazy.

 

[buddrousa]

I see I know they are multimode not multi band thinking one thing typing the other. I put together a fleet of 65 of the 5200's and 5700's

 

[12dbsinad]

L3Harris XL-95P

Multi-band VHF/UHF, P25

 

[AM909]

Do any include low-band or 900 MHz?

 

[12dbsinad]

Do any include low-band or 900 MHz?

Yes to 900 Mhz

No to Low Band. I don't even think there is a Low Band portable current production on the market anymore.

 

[mmckenna]

Right the Harris XL-200P does 900MHz.

No low band on the portable, but the XL-200M mobile does, or at least did.

For low band multimode portables, the only one I'm aware of is from TPL Systemes out of France. Not sure if the portable has FCC Part 90 certification, but some of their radios do.

TDH3G

It has a variation of DMR in it. It adds a 3 "time slot" for low speed data, similar to an old ISDN 2B+D type thing. Not sure if it can be made compatible with regular DMR.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Right the Harris XL-200P does 900MHz.

No low band on the portable, but the XL-200M mobile does, or at least did.

For low band multimode portables, the only one I'm aware of is from TPL Systemes out of France. Not sure if the portable has FCC Part 90 certification, but some of their radios do.

TDH3G

It has a variation of DMR in it. It adds a 3 "time slot" for low speed data, similar to an old ISDN 2B+D type thing. Not sure if it can be made compatible with regular DMR.

Just as a point of clairification, the XL200P does not have the hardware to do 900MHz even if it has the option installed it in (same for Low Band), there is a variant of the XL185P that is single band 900 MHz only.

The XL200M does have the low band hardware and IIRC also 900 MHz. Neither will go out to 927 unfortunately.

 

[human8472]

Kenwood/EFJohnson VP8000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, DMR (and supposed to eventually add NXDN).

Multimode if you count Analog:
Harris XL-200P: VHF, UHF, 700/800/900MHz, WiFi and LTE. Analog and P25
Tait TP9800: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog and P25
Bendix King BKR9000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog and P25
Motorola APX-8000: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, WiFi
Motorola APX-Next: VHF, UHF, 700/800MHz, Analog, P25, WiFi, LTE
There is some older stuff, like the Thales Liberty, but that's almost 20 years ago.

Not going to mention the Military stuff.

Or the Chinese toys.

What advantage does LTE provide for the Harris XL-200P? Is it just the ability to make a cellular call? Is it VOIP?

 

[Echo4Thirty]

It's used for BeOn. That's Harris's voip solution similar to Motorola's Smart connect. It also can be used as a WiFi hotspot.

 

[merlin]

No low band on the portable, but the XL-200M mobile does, or at least did.

XG-100M does low band. for TX though, you need the HPA, also on a separate antenna, The other 3 bands are the common VHF, UHF, 700/800.
(Maybe the same for the XL-200M) US $4,500.00 on ebay.

 

[mmckenna]

What advantage does LTE provide for the Harris XL-200P? Is it just the ability to make a cellular call? Is it VOIP?

Harris BeON will allow the radio to connect back to the P25 core via LTE or WiFi. That's useful if outside the coverage area of the radio system, or inside a building where the radio system will not reach.

It will -NOT- do cellular phone calls. It can act as a (very expensive) WiFi hotspot.

 

[12dbsinad]

Harris BeON will allow the radio to connect back to the P25 core via LTE or WiFi. That's useful if outside the coverage area of the radio system, or inside a building where the radio system will not reach.

It will -NOT- do cellular phone calls. It can act as a (very expensive) WiFi hotspot.

In another 5-8 years this will be perfected. Right now as it stands, there is about an 8 second lag time of no communications when it switches back and forth. It will solve A LOT of problems, just not perfect yet.

 

[KevinC]

In another 5-8 years this will be perfected. Right now as it stands, there is about an 8 second lag time of no communications when it switches back and forth. It will solve A LOT of problems, just not perfect yet.

Interesting. SmartConnect is pretty much instant from LMR to cellular and a couple of seconds the other way around. Or at least that was my experience.

 

[mmckenna]

In another 5-8 years this will be perfected. Right now as it stands, there is about an 8 second lag time of no communications when it switches back and forth. It will solve A LOT of problems, just not perfect yet.

Yeah, Harris has some catching up to do. Been running their stuff for a few years now and I've found the issues.