Need some help, drive up to Pincrest CA

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gusbuster1217

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Never been up to Pinecrest, Ca up by Sonora. I don't even have a clue on what agencies I can monitor. Suggestion

Going to assume Cal Fire(which dispatch) C.H.P. (Sacramento Freq. or Stockton), I'm guessing Pinecrest is in Tuolumne county, but should I also monitor Calaveras. Any other agencies such as BLM.

Any suggestions or thoughts. Not asking for the frequencies itself,(would be wasting my subscription to R.R.). Just trying to figure out what I'm going to program into my 396.

John
 

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001) Calaveras Sheriff Angels Camp 45.3200
002) Calaveras Sheriff San Andres 45.2200
003) Calaveras Sheriff Valley Springs 45.1000
004) Calaveras Sheriff Arnold 45.2000
005) Calaveras Sheriff VHF 151.0550
006) Calaveras Sheriff Extender 155.6250
007) Tuolumne Sheriff 1 152.7200
008) Tuolumne Sheriff 2 152.6300
009) Tuolumne Sheriff Phone Patch 159.6300
010) Tuolumne Sheriff Ext 173.3000
011) CHP Calaveras 49 42.5600
012) CHP Tuolumne 61 42.5200
013) Angels Camp PD (14) 45.1400
014) Sonora Police 153.8000
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016) CDF Tuol/Cal 151.1750
017) Tuolumne Command 151.1300
018) Calaveras Fire Tac 153.8150
019) Tuolumne Fire Tac 154.2650
020) Stanislaus USFS 168.7500
021) USFS Law Net 166.1250
022) New Melones Lake 172.6250
023) Yosemite Rangers 172.6500
024) Fish & Game 151.4150
025) State Parks 856.9375
026) Army Corps River Patrol 163.4125
027) New Hogan Lake 163.4375
028) BLM Rangers 166.3750
 

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For the Stanislaus National Forest the listed 168.750 MHz frequency is the Emergency Net (typically fire and law enforcement). The Admin. Net is on 168.150 MHz which carries recreation, maintenance, resource management, and other functions communications.

The 172.650 MHz frequency listed for Yosemite is one of four nets that park utilizes. 172.650 is called "Park Net" (park wide), 172.775 is called "Fire Net", and 166.300 is called "Valley Net" (for the Yosemite Valley area). The fourth net is the law enforcement net, which is confidential and not on official use interagency frequency lists available to all agency functional personnel. It is only shared with the law enforcement personnel of the Park Service and other agencies.

On this last point, many associate the term "ranger" with "Visitor and Resource Protection Rangers," an official National Park Service term for law enforcement officers or rangers. All of these LEO's use the law enforcement net now unless they are coordinating with other employees and non-law enforcement rangers (interpretation, resource management, etc.) in which case they use "Park" or "Valley." When communicating with fire management they, of course, use the Fire Net.
 

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My wife and I just spent four days camping at Yosemite Creek Campground in Yosemite National Park. I did quite a bit of monitoring and have figured out a little more about the Park's nets. It appears that Wawona and Mather Ranger Districts (Mather has two sub-districts, Tuolumne and Mather) use the park net for all communications, including law enforcement.

The Valley Ranger District, based on my day trip 3 weeks ago and this recent overnight trip, seems to be using the law enforcement net. I could only receive the Mt. Hoffman (Park Net) and Sentinel Dome (Valley Net) repeaters. To verify this conclusion for the Valley District, I need to hear traffic on Turtleback, the location of a Valley Net and Law Enforcement Net repeater. I picked up some traffic on the Park Net that a law enforcement repeater is located on North Peak.

I listened very carefully to unit Id's on this trip. I can't verify this yet, but it sounds like the rangers working the Valley District use Id's that match with their shifts, which cover the valley 24 hours per day. Delta units are most likely to be "day shift," Echo units are "evening shift," and I did not hear any of the graveyard shift units, but would guess them to be either Golf units (graveyard) or November (night). I could not verify this because I could not hear the Turtleback repeaters.

I will post all the unit ID information when I have some time. My wife and I hiked up a section of the old Tioga Pass highway that climbs out of Yosemite Creek and decommissioned quite some time ago. A portion of this old highway is still in use and provides access to Yosemite Creek campground, where a now condemned bridge across Yosemite Creek is located. I was very interesting to see how the road was originally constructed and how people accessed Tioga Pass before 1963. The old highway followed the original Tioga Mine wagon road, which was put in to access the mine, located on the east side of the Sierra Crest. It was quite some time before the highway down Lee Vining Canyon was constructed to provide access to the park from the east side of the Sierra.

I woke up about 0600 the first morning there and heard a very loud noise which sounded like metal being dropped at 0630. About an hour later there was a large law enforcement/medical response to a vehicle rollover on the present Tioga Pass road, up canyon about 2 miles. It was a Chevy Tahoe with 8 people on board from a camp east of Groveland. No one was killed or critically injured. I was interesting to listen to the response and to think how far the sound of the collision with rock and a tree could be heard. The delayed response was caused by the time it took for one of the people to climb back up to the road and call in the accident.
 

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There have been other threads discussing the unit Id system at Yosemite. It is time for an update.

Mather I believe there are three ranger districts and the backcounty unit at this park. They would be Wawona, Valley, and
Mather. The backcountry unit may have been raised to a full on ranger district. The Mather District is apparently divided
into two subdistricts Tuolumne and Mather. I've only heard a limited number if employees using the Id "Mather," including
the District Ranger. Back in the 80's Mather had two subdistricts, Tuolumne and Big Oak Flat.

Tango Tuolumne Subdistrict

Mike Mather Subdistrict

Whiskey Wawona District

Victor Valley District

Traffic Traffic management and accident investigation. Not sure if every traffic employee is a commissioned LEO.

Hotel Valley horse patrol.

Bravo Backcountry law enforcement

Wilderness I believe these are unarmed backcountry management personnel

LYV Valley District personnel stationed in the Little Yosemite Valley. This is generally the first nights stop for people hiking the John Muir
trail from its start in the valley. A big wilderness management challenge. I heard "LYV 1" and "LYV 2", etc. while listening to the
Valley Net (166.300)

Sierra I thought this was Search and Rescue as Yosemite is one of the only National Parks that has a full time SAR organization.
I heard some Sierra units calling in service stating they would be on patrol. This may be Sierra units that take on patrol
tasks when not busy with SAR duties. "Sierra One" was heard when three simultaneous SAR incidents in the valley were being
worked. There is also a possibility that Sierra may refer to "Safety Management" also.

Rescue On the traffic accident incident I related above a licensed clinical nurse was heard using this Id on scene. I'm not sure
if she was a NPS employee or the employee of whoever runs the medical clinic in the valley.

Resource Almost all large units of the NPS are organized into four branches: Visitor and Resource Protection, Resource Management,
Interpretive Services, and Maintenance. I'm not sure if fire management is in Protection or Resource Management, but my bet would
be the latter. I heard several resource units go into service at all times of the day and they were likely to be bear management
people.

Ambulance Obvious. Ambulances appear to be numbered in accordance with the ranger district number series used by non-law enforcement
personnel. Mather = 2, Valley = 3, Wawona = 4, and park headquarters employees = 1.

Fire Management All use 500 series numbers.

Backcountry Unit or District Use a 600 number series.

Trail Crews Use the 620 series

There are no 700 units as those were reserved for fixed stations but now those stations use geographical Id's such a "Tioga Pass" and "South Entrance."

Research Scientists and Techs use the 800 number series.

In the numbered series 50's refers to buildings/grounds maintenance or campground maintenance. 60's refer to roads maintenance and 70's to water and sewer maintenance or electrical maintenance. Plumbers use the 80's number series. Example "381" is a Valley District plumber, "262" works Mather District roads, and 672 maintains backcountry buildings such as ranger stations.

Now that leaves some other protection Id's. I heard "Delta" units going in service between 0600 and 0900. I suspect these would be Valley Ranger District day shift LEO's. I listened carefully for "Echo" units, which I would guess to be evening shift protection rangers. I've heard this call sign on previous trips. I haven't heard the graveyard or night shift units, which I would guess to be either "Golf" or "November" Id's. In the 80's the Valley Ranger District had an El Portal subdistrict and Echo could reflect this, but several years ago I picked up a rumor that the number of subdistricts was being reduced with El Portal being on the top of the list. The Valley Ranger District is one of the only non-urban National Parks where there is a regularly scheduled graveyard shift. Others are probably Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, and Great Smokey Mountains due to high visitation. There may be more.

I need to spend some time in Yosemite Valley in order to confirm these Id's as applying to Valley Ranger District shifts. I need to be in range of the Turtleback repeater on both the Valley Net and Law Enforcement Net. As a private citizen I've only stayed two nights in the Valley in my life and both were at Camp Curry. The social scene for my wife and I with some friends prevented much listening. As a federal employee I've spent 15-20 days in the valley, but there was even less time to monitor as I was in meetings and "networking" in the evenings. These trips were all during the week in the fall or winter, when the radio traffic in the park is pretty low. The radio system has gone through extensive changes since then anyway. A good spot for hearing most of the park's repeaters is at Olmsted Point, with the best being on Sentinel Dome, where the park's remote base stations are likely located.

As for the frequency of the Law Enforcement net, I'm sorry but I can't share that.

The alphanumeric system of Id's for protection rangers (mostly) is being used in other parks as well. Grand Canyon comes to mind. Death Valley is still using three numbered series such as 100, 200, etc.

I welcome hearing from anyone who has observations of the above.
 
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Northzone,
Thanks for those frequencies.

I was up at New Lake Melones. Interesting to listen to the area rangers for the lake. I was surprised by the lack of proper radio use by the evening rangers.

The park ranger that I talked to Saturday morning at the boat launch was surprised that I heard this one particular comment about some drunks causing a disturbance in which the rangers were called to 3 different times. I guess this young person didn't realize that some people do monitor their radio frequency.

This weekend, Fraser Flat campground in Pinecrest.
 

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Hello. Name is Mtn-Res-Q. I am a resident of Tuolumne County and an 8 year veteran of Emergency Services, including Ambulance and Tuolumne County Search and Rescue. I have been lurking around these forums for a while, taking useful info when possible. I now have a reason to contribute, and I hope this helps anyone looking to visit my mountains.

Northzone’s info is good, but from the standpoint of someone who routinely listens to and lives in the area, I would suggest losing the Calaveras County channels if you are coming to Tuolumne County, and adding in several more (you might hear something interesting depending on where you are in the county). All these channels come from my Sheriff's SAR radio as we are capable of communicating with many of the local agencies, including the Forest Service, BLM, Yosemite, CalFire, and the other local LE agencies. I will omit several frequencies, as I am not sure if I should reveal some of them, such as SWAT, Tacs, Court, Jail, etc...

LAW CHANNELS

• Tuolumne Sheriff Channel 1 152.720
• Tuolumne Sheriff Channel 2 152.630
• CALCORD (used by SAR for missions and Fire for landing helos) 156.075
• CLEMARS 1(used by SAR for missions) 154.920
• CLEMARS 2 154.935
• NALEMARS 155.475
• NASAR 1 155.160
• NASAR 2 155.205
• Sonora PD 153.800
• Tuolumne CHP 042.520
• Fish and Game 151.415
• Columbia Historical State Park 856.9375

EMS CHANNELS

• Tuolumne County Ambulance 462.250
• Tuolumne County Med Net 462.400

FIRE CHANNELS

• CALFIRE (All non-Forest Service Fire units in Tuolumne/Calaveras County) 151.175
• Tuolumne County Fire Command 151.130
• CALFIRE Command 1 151.355
• CALFIRE Command 2 151.265
• CDF TAC 2 151.160
• CDF TAC 5 151.250
• CDF TAC 8 151.370
• CALTAC (Calaveras Fire Tac) 153.815
• White Fire 1 154.280
• White Fire 2 154.265
• White Fire 3 154.295
• CDF Air to Ground 151.220

FOREST SERVICE CHANNELS

• Stanislaus National Forest Administrative Net 168.150
• Stanislaus National Forest Operations Net 168.750
• Stanislaus National Forest Service Net 171.500
• USFS TAC 1 (Mi-Wok District) 168.050
• USFS TAC 2 (Groveland and Calaveras Districts) 168.200
• USFS TAC 3 (Summit District) 168.600
• R-5 Project Net 164.150
• USFS Air to Ground 170.000
• Yosemite National Park Park Net 172.650
• Yosemite National Park Valley Net 166.300
• Yosemite National Park Fire Net 172.775
• Yosemite National Park Common Net 168.350
• Yosemite National Park Tactical Net 168.6125
• Yosemite National Park Air to Ground 168.5625

BLM / RESERVIOR CHANNELS

• BLM Rangers 166.375
• New Melones Recreation 172.625
• Don Pedro Recreation 151.475

I believe that these are the main ones, but I may have left a few out, and there are many more that I didn’t find relevant to this discussion, such as the tow truck, buses, and not-in-use channels.
 
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