New Hanover County TRS Request for Assistance

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Robbyboy

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Good Afternoon -

I am making several trips to NHC over the next month and have been monitoring quite extensively! I am trying to tighten down the TRS as it displays in the database and if anyone here can provide assistance with that I would appreciate it!

I am going to clean the formatting up here shortly and if anyone has anything to add please submit the info or PM me to make contact about it!

Thanks for everyones assistance!
 
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OK, Heres what information I have gathered. I gathered a bit of info today from a source on this sytem. I cannot name this source right now, so please don't ask.

There original sysID for the NHC TRS is 5430. NHC now has some digital TGs that are showing up with a sysID od 01b9. Also, the smartzone is enabled on the 01b9 system settings. This includes some PS Tac channels, along with NHC Fire Dispatch, and NHC EMS dispatch, and a few odd TGs here and there.

The control channels I have for sys 01B9 co-incide with the frequencies listed for the Seabreeze site on the RR database.

Also, there are some new tac channels, listed as South Tac 1, 2, 3, etc that are showing with a sys ID of CF31, and is showing control channels (frequencies) that co-incide with the seabreeze site as well.

I am trying to make some sense out of this. As a former Motorola man, this one has me guessing. What I am thinking is they have the seabreeze site as a stand alone site operating in analog mode only, which provides the Tac South channels. Then, apparently their upgrade to digital is going along rather well, and they have a part of their system running as an Astro P25 system under the sysID of 01B9.

I have also identified the 3 backup TGs that are programmed into the NHC fire radios, that are used on the Corning, GE and NHRMC TRSs as well. Robbyboy, shoot me a PM on all of this.

Also, if anyone else has any insight, please let me (or us) know.
 
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Robbyboy

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Based on nozman as well as confirmed by personal observation, I will be splitting this system off in the next day or two. Trying to decypher all of the different Law Talkgroups as I keep finding more and more and I have never seen so many different types of units for NHCSO. I have captured almost a dozen types of units and only identified about 3 of them. Again, anyone that can provide insight is welcome to help! :p


Update: I created the system. It will need refinement, Jeff bear with me
Regards
 
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central_il

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I logged the system using trunker for several months this fall. I haven't recently monitored the system. Here is the information I last used. I would like to thank everyone who has posted previously who added to the system. Most of my notes came from you.


DEC HEX Description
0256 010 ?
0560 023 Unknown Group 560
1200 04b Unknown Group 1200
1616 065 NH County Fire Dispatch
1648 067 NH County Fire Department Tac 8
1680 069 WIlmington Fire Department Tac 9
1712 06b NH County Fire Tac 10
1744 06d NHC Special Events 10
1776 06F NHC Special Events 11
1840 073 NH County Fire Admin 1 (Unit To Unit)
1872 075 NH County Fire Admin 2 (Admin Officer)
1904 077 NH County Fire Emergency Management
1936 079 NH County Fire Marshall
1968 07b Wilmington Fire Department Main Dispatch
2096 830 NH Regional EMS Main Dispatch
2128 085 PUBSRV ??
2160 087 ER-911 Dispatch Mutual Aid Talkgroup
2224 08B ?
2256 08D ?
2416 097 ?
2448 099 New Hanover County Commissioners (Used During Storms)
2960 0b9 HazMat RRT
2992 0bb ?
3024 0bd ?
3056 0bf NH County Animal Control Services
3088 0c1 ?
4208 107 ?
5552 15b ?
16016 3e9 ?
16080 3ed Seabreeze Site Talkgroup: Southside TAC 2
16112 3ef ?
17568 44a ?
17648 44f Wilmington Fire Department MED TAC 1 (Designated for City Of Wilmington Traffic (Fire And Police)
17680 451 Wilmington Fire Department MED TAC 2 (Designated for County Traffic (Fire and Sheriff Office)
17712 453 NH County Fire Department TAC 2
17744 455 Wilmington Fire Department TAC 3
17776 457 NH County Fire Department TAC 4
17808 459 Wilmington Fire Department TAC 5
17840 45b NH County Fire Department TAC 6
17872 45d Wilmington Fire Department TAC 7
17904 45f Wilmington Fire Department Arson Investigators
17698 463 ?
18000 465 ?
18032 467 NH County Events 5
18064 469 NH County Events 6
18096 46b NH County Events 7
18128 46f NH County Events 8
18192 471 NH School Resource Officers
18256 475 NH Traffic Light Repair
18288 477 ?
18320 479 UNC-W Campus Police Primary
18352 47b UNC-W Campus Police Ch-2
18384 47d ?
18416 47f ?
18448 481 ?
26656 682 ?
27056 69b ?
28034 6e9 ?
29200 721 ?
29328 729 ?
32016 7d1 Wilmington Police All Talk Group
32017 7db ?
32241 7df Wilmington Police Unknown
32272 7e1 ?
32480 7e3 ?
33616 835 Wilmington Police West Side
33648 837 Wilmington Police East Side
33680 839 Wilmington Police Unknown
33712 83b Wilmington Police Surveillance
33744 83d Wilmington Special OPs Dispatch/ Background Checks
33766 83f Wilmington Police Desk: Warrents
33808 841 WIlmington Police Car to Car (10)
33968 84b Wilmington Police Channel 1B
34000 84d WIlmington Police East Bravo
34096 853 Wilmington Police Channel B (Street Team Special Team Uses This)
34128 855 Wilmington Police Janitors? Maintance
34160 857 NH Sheriff Department Vice And Narc or Wilmington Vice Narc
34288 85f Wilmington Police West Side Channel C
34320 861 Wilmington Police East Side Channel C
34384 865 Wilmington Police Unknown
34416 867 Wilmington Police Channel C (Usually Off the OPS Talkgroups)
34448 869 ?
34480 86b ?
34544 86f ?
34576 871 ?
34608 873 ?
34640 875 ?
34736 87b ?
35312 89f ?
35344 8a1 NH County Sheriff Surveillance
35408 8a5 Wilmington Police Vice-Special Ops
35472 8a9 ?
44976 afb ?
49616 c1d NH Sheriffs Department Main Dispatch
49648 c1f NH Sheriff Department B1
49712 c23 ?
49744 c25 ?
49776 c27 ?
50224 c43 NH Regional EMS Operations
50256 c45 NH Regional Encode To NHRMC
50288 c47 NH Regional Encode to Cape Fear
50320 c49 NH Regional EMS Training
50352 c4b NH Regional EMS Admin 1
50416 c4f NH Regional Vitalink/Airlink NHR
50448 c51 Airport Police PSO
50480 c53 ?
50512 c55 ?
50544 c57 ?
50576 c59 Solid Waste Management
50608 c5b Loader/Heavy Equipment
50640 c5d NH County Water Inspection? Flushing Hydrants
50672 c5f Public Services/STREET
50704 c61 ?
50736 c63 ?
50768 c65 ?
50800 c67 Emergency Unknown ?
50832 c69 ?
50864 c6b ?
50896 c6d ?
50928 c6f ?
50960 c71 ?
50992 c73 ?
51120 c7b ?
51152 c7d ?
51184 c7f ?
51216 c81 ?
51280 c85 ?
51344 c89 ?
51440 c8f ?
51472 c91 ?
51504 c93 Park Maintance?
51536 c95 ?
51568 c97 NH Sheriffs Car to Car 2 ('2, KB-2, Alpha 2, A-2)
51600 c99 NH Sheriffs Car to Car 3 (A-3, Alpha 3)
51632 c9b NH Sheriffs Front Desk
51664 c9d NH Sheriffs A5
51696 c9f NH Sheriff Unid
51728 ca1 NH Sheriff Unid
51760 ca3 ?
51792 ca5 NH Sheriff Unid
51888 cab ?
51920 cad ?
52016 cb3 ?
52048 cb5 NC SHP Troop B Link
52080 cb7 ?
52144 cbb Wrightsville Beach Police
52176 cbd Carolina Beach Fire Department
52208 cbf ?
52240 cc1 NH Car To Car?
52368 cc9 ?
52400 ccb ?
52624 cd9 NH Sheriff Car To Car?
52688 cdd ?
52752 ce1 ILM Airport Police
52816 ce5 NH Security Courthouse?
52912 ceb ?
53008 cf1 Wilmington Bus System
53040 cf3 ?
53072 cf5 ?
53104 cf7 ?
53168 cfb ?
53424 d0b Carolina Beach Police
53488 d0f Carolina Beach Lifeguard Channel 3
53712 d1d ?
53744 d1f ?
53776 d21 ?
53840 d25 ?
53872 d27 Ocean Rescue
61856 f1a ?
64528 fc1 ?

Pleasure Island



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4215 Group 1911 County Emergency Management
4219 Group 1975 City Fire Dispatch
7355 Group 52151 Wrightsville Beach Police
7355 Group 1911 County Fire Management
4215 Group 1911 County Emergency Management
 

imamcinnc

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new hanover county astro p25 transition

i am not a scanner guru, but maybe i can provide some insight to the new hanover county transition to digital p25.

the original motorola smartnet (analog only) system has been in existence over 10 years now, and is a single site located at Flemington. It is still up and running.

in 2005, the county entered into a contract with motorola to upgrade the smartnet system to a multi-site digital p25 system.

motorola designed a p25 simulcast system using 4 sites: flemington, seabreeze, progress energy (north part of county), and the control tower site (at the 911 center)

the design also included expanding the existing smartnet (analog only) system by adding analog equipment at the seabreeze site. the seabreeze site gave immediate coverage to the beaches while the new digital system was being rolled out. this also allowed the users to continue using over 2500 mts/mcs2000 motorola radios (which are analog only) until they could afford to upgrade those 2500+ units to a p25 radio like the xts/xtl series.

the new 4-site digital p25 system was signed off and put in use in mid-2006 with over 97% county coverage, with only a few users (because they had not purchased digital radios just yet)

the primary PS analog smartnet talkgroups have been patched to the primary digital talkgroups until the analog equipment at flemington and seabreeze can be decommissioned in 2010. (this may be why some scanners are not getting as much traffic, because you may only see the smartnet (analog) traffic from Flemington or Seabreeze, when in fact, there is much more traffic on the P25 simulcast system)

some users are now/already have converted fully to digital only because it provides 4 times the sites (better coverage), and those users include Wrightsville Beach, Kure Beach, Carolina Beach, Wilmington, New Hanover County Fire, New Hanover County EM, UNC Police, (I may have missed some - but these are mostly references to PS agencies)

there are still some key users in the county that will have to convert to/buy digital-capable radios before they can make the transition to the new p25 system.
 

ILMRadioMan

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Also, BTW:

Since they have coined the term "VIPER" for the SW NC System......

I took the liberty of coining an acronym for our NHC P25 system.

PITHON

Public Safety
Interoperability
Telecommunications
Hazard / emergency
Operational
Network


Lets keeps the snakes a goin ;)
 
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Thanks for the info there ILM.

Good acronym too.

I knew the status of the NHC systems, but wasnt quite sure how they were set-up right now since I havent been directly involved with maintenance on the system for about 6 years now. Used to deal with 5430 all day and every day, but not since 2002.

If you happen to have any more info of the systems, please pass it along.

Jeff
Surf City, NC
 

tbholler

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Help on the 800's freq. for these ID's ( I think thats what they are)

I logged the system using trunker for several months this fall. I haven't recently monitored the system. Here is the information I last used. I would like to thank everyone who has posted previously who added to the system. Most of my notes came from you.


DEC HEX Description
0256 010 ?
0560 023 Unknown Group 560
1200 04b Unknown Group 1200
1616 065 NH County Fire Dispatch
1648 067 NH County Fire Department Tac 8
1680 069 WIlmington Fire Department Tac 9
1712 06b NH County Fire Tac 10
1744 06d NHC Special Events 10
1776 06F NHC Special Events 11
1840 073 NH County Fire Admin 1 (Unit To Unit)
1872 075 NH County Fire Admin 2 (Admin Officer)
1904 077 NH County Fire Emergency Management
1936 079 NH County Fire Marshall
1968 07b Wilmington Fire Department Main Dispatch
2096 830 NH Regional EMS Main Dispatch
2128 085 PUBSRV ??
2160 087 ER-911 Dispatch Mutual Aid Talkgroup
2224 08B ?
2256 08D ?
2416 097 ?
2448 099 New Hanover County Commissioners (Used During Storms)
2960 0b9 HazMat RRT
2992 0bb ?
3024 0bd ?
3056 0bf NH County Animal Control Services
3088 0c1 ?
4208 107 ?
5552 15b ?
16016 3e9 ?
16080 3ed Seabreeze Site Talkgroup: Southside TAC 2
16112 3ef ?
17568 44a ?
17648 44f Wilmington Fire Department MED TAC 1 (Designated for City Of Wilmington Traffic (Fire And Police)
17680 451 Wilmington Fire Department MED TAC 2 (Designated for County Traffic (Fire and Sheriff Office)
17712 453 NH County Fire Department TAC 2
17744 455 Wilmington Fire Department TAC 3
17776 457 NH County Fire Department TAC 4
17808 459 Wilmington Fire Department TAC 5
17840 45b NH County Fire Department TAC 6
17872 45d Wilmington Fire Department TAC 7
17904 45f Wilmington Fire Department Arson Investigators
17698 463 ?
18000 465 ?
18032 467 NH County Events 5
18064 469 NH County Events 6
18096 46b NH County Events 7
18128 46f NH County Events 8
18192 471 NH School Resource Officers
18256 475 NH Traffic Light Repair
18288 477 ?
18320 479 UNC-W Campus Police Primary
18352 47b UNC-W Campus Police Ch-2
18384 47d ?
18416 47f ?
18448 481 ?
26656 682 ?
27056 69b ?
28034 6e9 ?
29200 721 ?
29328 729 ?
32016 7d1 Wilmington Police All Talk Group
32017 7db ?
32241 7df Wilmington Police Unknown
32272 7e1 ?
32480 7e3 ?
33616 835 Wilmington Police West Side
33648 837 Wilmington Police East Side
33680 839 Wilmington Police Unknown
33712 83b Wilmington Police Surveillance
33744 83d Wilmington Special OPs Dispatch/ Background Checks
33766 83f Wilmington Police Desk: Warrents
33808 841 WIlmington Police Car to Car (10)
33968 84b Wilmington Police Channel 1B
34000 84d WIlmington Police East Bravo
34096 853 Wilmington Police Channel B (Street Team Special Team Uses This)
34128 855 Wilmington Police Janitors? Maintance
34160 857 NH Sheriff Department Vice And Narc or Wilmington Vice Narc
34288 85f Wilmington Police West Side Channel C
34320 861 Wilmington Police East Side Channel C
34384 865 Wilmington Police Unknown
34416 867 Wilmington Police Channel C (Usually Off the OPS Talkgroups)
34448 869 ?
34480 86b ?
34544 86f ?
34576 871 ?
34608 873 ?
34640 875 ?
34736 87b ?
35312 89f ?
35344 8a1 NH County Sheriff Surveillance
35408 8a5 Wilmington Police Vice-Special Ops
35472 8a9 ?
44976 afb ?
49616 c1d NH Sheriffs Department Main Dispatch
49648 c1f NH Sheriff Department B1
49712 c23 ?
49744 c25 ?
49776 c27 ?
50224 c43 NH Regional EMS Operations
50256 c45 NH Regional Encode To NHRMC
50288 c47 NH Regional Encode to Cape Fear
50320 c49 NH Regional EMS Training
50352 c4b NH Regional EMS Admin 1
50416 c4f NH Regional Vitalink/Airlink NHR
50448 c51 Airport Police PSO
50480 c53 ?
50512 c55 ?
50544 c57 ?
50576 c59 Solid Waste Management
50608 c5b Loader/Heavy Equipment
50640 c5d NH County Water Inspection? Flushing Hydrants
50672 c5f Public Services/STREET
50704 c61 ?
50736 c63 ?
50768 c65 ?
50800 c67 Emergency Unknown ?
50832 c69 ?
50864 c6b ?
50896 c6d ?
50928 c6f ?
50960 c71 ?
50992 c73 ?
51120 c7b ?
51152 c7d ?
51184 c7f ?
51216 c81 ?
51280 c85 ?
51344 c89 ?
51440 c8f ?
51472 c91 ?
51504 c93 Park Maintance?
51536 c95 ?
51568 c97 NH Sheriffs Car to Car 2 ('2, KB-2, Alpha 2, A-2)
51600 c99 NH Sheriffs Car to Car 3 (A-3, Alpha 3)
51632 c9b NH Sheriffs Front Desk
51664 c9d NH Sheriffs A5
51696 c9f NH Sheriff Unid
51728 ca1 NH Sheriff Unid
51760 ca3 ?
51792 ca5 NH Sheriff Unid
51888 cab ?
51920 cad ?
52016 cb3 ?
52048 cb5 NC SHP Troop B Link
52080 cb7 ?
52144 cbb Wrightsville Beach Police
52176 cbd Carolina Beach Fire Department
52208 cbf ?
52240 cc1 NH Car To Car?
52368 cc9 ?
52400 ccb ?
52624 cd9 NH Sheriff Car To Car?
52688 cdd ?
52752 ce1 ILM Airport Police
52816 ce5 NH Security Courthouse?
52912 ceb ?
53008 cf1 Wilmington Bus System
53040 cf3 ?
53072 cf5 ?
53104 cf7 ?
53168 cfb ?
53424 d0b Carolina Beach Police
53488 d0f Carolina Beach Lifeguard Channel 3
53712 d1d ?
53744 d1f ?
53776 d21 ?
53840 d25 ?
53872 d27 Ocean Rescue
61856 f1a ?
64528 fc1 ?

Pleasure Island



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4215 Group 1911 County Emergency Management
4219 Group 1975 City Fire Dispatch
7355 Group 52151 Wrightsville Beach Police
7355 Group 1911 County Fire Management
4215 Group 1911 County Emergency Management

Where can I find the 800's freq. for these ID groups, and How do I know if they are up to date and current. Thanks
 

ricscan

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Thanks guys

My daughter lives in Carolina Beach and we will be slithering our way down from Richmond,VA to see her mid July. Thanks to this thread I don't have to ask any silly questions.I have a GRE500 and hope to get in some good listening. My only questions are: to listen to CB & Wilmington do I only have to put in the TRS freqs. and TG's ? They are both fully digital if I read correctly. Which police dept of the 2 have more going on,I would think Wil but being the summer you can never tell. Thanks again.Good thread.
 
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