NFL headsets going digital in new technology wave
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Rrright... WTF?
Holy Cow, Lindsay, I was thinking the same thing.
I liked the Madonna one better lol.
b7spectra
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>The NFL has said there are some 268 million different military-grade encryption codes protecting the frequencies........ you pick up police radio, you pick up air traffic controllers, you pick up all kinds of stuff." <
Excuse me, but if you are encrypted, how are you hearing anything else?
Excuse me, but if you are encrypted, how are you hearing anything else?
redneckcellphone
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oh so now their radios work in am mode?
RocketNJ
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Guess the Seahawks Offensive Coordinator doesn't know radio. Hope he knows football 
Phreakin318
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wow if that don't scream at fcc "come get me" don't know what does lol
ecps92
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The original NFL QB, which became QB and DEF Radios were all UHF 12.5 splinter channels. Especially near Airports, some of those Frequencies were really heavily used by other agencies. [Security, Airport Ops, Hotels], it was always fun to see which Freq popped up at Foxboro [Analog, Rolling Code Encryption]
When they first come out the NFL said they were 800/900 Mhz, yet when a Certain [Retired QB] mentioned he always had problems, until after half-time, it took only a week to find out he was on the Adj Freq to the Parking Lot attendents [who leave just before Half-time]
I was going to mention this, but wanted to validate the new mode, after a 2nd Game, since there was nothing found on the old 2 Freqs for my NE Patriots. I did find some others, but don't have DSD running, but it sounded TRBO
PS the FCC Licensed the NFL for many many UHF Pairs, from 451-453 / 460.7-465
for the original Analog Freqs.
When they first come out the NFL said they were 800/900 Mhz, yet when a Certain [Retired QB] mentioned he always had problems, until after half-time, it took only a week to find out he was on the Adj Freq to the Parking Lot attendents [who leave just before Half-time]
I was going to mention this, but wanted to validate the new mode, after a 2nd Game, since there was nothing found on the old 2 Freqs for my NE Patriots. I did find some others, but don't have DSD running, but it sounded TRBO
PS the FCC Licensed the NFL for many many UHF Pairs, from 451-453 / 460.7-465
for the original Analog Freqs.
ecps92
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Probably, like P25, if programmed correctly can work in Dual Mode.
The Radio [coach] was stapped to TX in ENC, but since it was never designed to RX from the QB or DEF Helmet, it heard anything on the Frequency. Remember this was a One-Way radio System [Coach to QB or Coach to DEF] so who would ever think to program the RX on the Coaches Radio to mute
The Radio [coach] was stapped to TX in ENC, but since it was never designed to RX from the QB or DEF Helmet, it heard anything on the Frequency. Remember this was a One-Way radio System [Coach to QB or Coach to DEF] so who would ever think to program the RX on the Coaches Radio to mute
I came this >< close to volunteering to be a Game Day Coordinator at the 2012 Super Bowl in Indianapolis. The GDCs are frequency coordinators who work with the local public safety, arena, concession, team, and media people to help reduce radio interference at NFL games. Their presence at most NFL games is fairly low profile because the venue and the users are all pretty well known. But, the Super Bowl is a big deal in this regard because the number of RF users is huge compared to a regular game.
The GDCs maintain a database of users and what frequencies they are on. They also research the local RF conditions to find "holes" in the spectrum where they can place users. The top GDC guys are mostly ex-broadcast engineers with some spectrum management experience.
For the Super Bowl, nobody was allowed into the controlled area around Lucas Oil Stadium with an RF transmitting device that hadn't been cataloged, checked, and tagged. The only exceptions were cell phones and public safety radios. The volunteer GDCs were stationed at the entrance points to look for un-tagged transmitters. Other volunteer GDCs were stationed around the stadium with spectrum analyzers to sniff out unauthorized users.
Yes, with encryption, the local police agency or parking lot attendant shouldn't cause a problem. But, any transmitter has the potential of causing some interference to the player-sideline radios. I don't think going to digital will completely solve the problem and the GDCs will have to stay on top of their spectrum management game. As for MotoTRBO being used, given the NFL's association with Motorola, that wouldn't surprise me.
I'm pretty sure they are using TRBO. They have been adding the TRBO emission to a lot of their licenses.
They wouldn't need to. A lot of airports rebroadcast the tower or ground frequencies on UHF so the baggage trucks, bird scare units etc can get permission to cross runways and taxiways etc. Belfast International airport in Ireland, where I grew up, operated a repeater for such purposes on 453Mhz or so.
While not hearing ATC directly, if a local airport had a similar system, the rebroadcast of ATC freqs on UHF could possibly come through on such receivers.
While watching a pre-season NFL game last week I saw one of the back-up QBs listening to what looked like a TRBO radio.
MotoSystemsTech
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Wow. I Built and Serviced the old system... Glad to see the upgrade..
Finding Freq
Is there a place that someone can find the freq in use on game day or that were used on game day?
Is there a place that someone can find the freq in use on game day or that were used on game day?
MotoSystemsTech
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you best bet is fcc page for each stadium.
abbadabbado
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that wont be a problem here in the tampa bay area they were able to show maybe one or two games last year on tv the economy here locally is so bad people wont be going everlest trying to listen to there comm. if there radios enc is so militay grade why do our brave solders keep getting killed because yhe enemy is listening to there comm. had a friend when he came back from irac told me back then they were radios found in whats his name palace that could pick up comm between tanks an tank leaders sorry about the spelling its 230 in the morning should be sleeping so my question is what military enc are they talking about for the greedy nfl
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That will miss quite a bit I'm afraid. The numerous wireless microphones and wireless video frequencies won't be listed (they're assigned to the TV stations/production companies). You'll could also miss the ones used by various food and other venders that are walking around the stadium selling their wares since most work other places on non-game days and license themselves area wide.
Most may be pretty easy to find since they'll be local, but for high profile games (super bowl, world series, etc.) you'll have media and venders from all over. Often they'll have shared frequencies for their equipment and be assigned timeslots for their use. Failing to honor your timeslot (using a frequency when not authorized anyway) can get your passes pulled and an escort away from the event grounds (although often an apology and agreement to honor them in the future will prevent a removal).
Smaller stations (and others as well) may use a service for their "live from Superbowl yyzz" broadcasts where the service's on-air staff acts like the local station staff for that remote. These services often have dedicated frequencies assigned to them. If you get the chance, those feeds are fun to watch. The same person will act like they're part of the "Live at 5" team for 3 mins and part of the "News station 23" team for the next 3 mins (often with most of their report identical). They may change mic graphic for each station or just use a generic (often event specific) graphic. The IFB channel is often interesting as well. It'll que the event staff which station they're doing (you don't want to say "News station 23" if you're doing "Live at 5") and giving time queues for the next few stations to prepare.
There's also be events away from the stadiums as well such as the "NFL Experience" that may have communications needs requiring coordination. While some may use local vendors and their frequencies, others may bring their own equipment on nation-wide licensed frequencies.
N5TWB
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Guess the Seahawks Offensive Coordinator doesn't know radio. Hope he knows football
I don't think there is any recent evidence of anybody in Seattle knowing anything about any sport - lost their basketball team and the other teams barely get a mention in a quick scores rundown on ESPN.
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