NYPD CW4, Command, and IAB.

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Are these three channels always encrypted? I seen on multiple websites that they are supposed to be, but I know someone who put them in their scanner, and I was confused as to why they would do that.

It was someone who knows the NYPD system pretty well because they have an online scanner feed of the NYPD and run remote scanners and all of that good stuff, so it's not someone who is a newbie.

Does encrypted on those channels just mean, it can be encrypted but isn't always?
 

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I have heard unencrypted NYPD transmissions on all of these channels. They are not particularly active or interesting, but occasionally I have logged some surveillance type activity. It is my impression that most of the sensitive intel-type comms are conducted via nextel or landline. For example, if there is a homicide, the squad is notified by telephone and not formally dispatched over the air. You'll hear "central, please notify the squad." I don't hear a lot of encrypted comms anywhwere on the NYPD system, except occasionally on CW4, and I believe a lot of this is just testing. It is my impression that detectives and intel personnel don't put a lot of info out over the air, encrypted or otherwise (sadly).
 

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Hmm

Do you ever hear anything on OCCB 1 & 2, Detective 1 & 2, Command, or even IAB?
 

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Yes, but it's usually idle chit-chat. Central will announce priority jobs over these channels too just like on Highway or SOD. I have rarely if ever heard anything related to organized crime, detective work, or internal affairs.

I have heard a surveillance type operation on IAB. I have heard unencrypted comms on command which sounded like NYPD brass communicating en-route to a major incident (in this case the steam pipe explosion in midtown). DET and OCCB channels I rarely hear anything despite monitoring nearly everyday. Interesting things do occasionally pop up on these channels though, so they should be in your scanner if you have room.

One last important point is that a lot of NYPD surveillace ops seem to take place on the TAC channels which are simplex and low-power (i.e., they are not on a repeater). You will not be able to pick these up unless you are very close to the transmitter (portable radios usually). If the action is not right in your neighborhood, you won't hear it.

-Scannergeek
 

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DES equipped

The repeaters you are refering to show encrypted because those are the only NYPD repeaters which possess the hardware to permit DES traffic. Rarely used however you do hear OTAR being sent over on IAB from time to time.

Phil
 

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radiorepair said:
The repeaters you are refering to show encrypted because those are the only NYPD repeaters which possess the hardware to permit DES traffic. Phil
Also Det-2 and OCCB-2.
 

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Hmmm

I answered my own question.

I was in NYC, and heard command with no encryption what so ever. It was just stuff like pull your car or vehicle to the spot, nothing like, a missing child operation or something.

I like listening to Detective 1 and 2 because sometimes they have like All Point Bulletins and say, for example the one time I heard a car that tried to abduct a 14 year old girl and the 103rd squad was looking for it.
 
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IAB encrypted for obvious reason & the detectives use Det. 2 for dignitary protection work, motorcades, President "comes to town".
 

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Hmmm

That may be but like I said, only thing I ever heard on Det 2 was basically an A.P.B. basically.
 
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