Obscure things to listen to...

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Shahate

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Hi all,

I am brand new on the scanning scene, and have just ordered my first scanner (Pro-97) which I am of course quite excited about! One of the questions I have is with all of these more common sources (police, ambulance etc.) going encrypted in the next few years; what are some less obvious things to listen to that are still interesting/exciting?

Someone on the Australian boards mentioned that casinos are a source of interest, and also the possibility of picking up private investigators...basically I'm looking for things like that - things I wouldn't really think of as a first time user. I'm not really looking for frequency ranges etc., more I guess just a general thread on the wide range of things that get sent over the radio waves that won't be getting encrypted anytime soon.

I hope to hear alot of interesting things soon!
 
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Railroads, public transit, hotels & motels, media stations, tow trucks, sport venues, concert venues, airports, airplanes, helicopters, boats, marine docks, etc....................................

Have Fun / Jerry
 

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Now you've hit on one of my favorite parts of the scanning hobby. Finding the "unlisted" stuff. Sometimes it's as boring as can be and sometimes it can get interesting because "they" think nobody is listening. To add to the list:

special police operations (narcotics, vice, detectives, and especially car-to-car simplex ops), private security agencies, federal government, bounty hunters, stores and malls, and military ops.

There's nothing quite like stumbling upon a new frequency and trying to figure out who it is. And then the added excitement of actually determining who it is you're listening to and trying to nail down their channels and details of their system. So many business users of two-way radios do not realize that their comms are listened to all the time. Probably the greatest impact on this aspect of radio for me was the addition of my BC246T to my equipment. Not only does it also trunk LTR systems (which many businesses use), but it also has tone decode. I never realized how many frequencies are shared between users until I started distinguishing between their tones. Ahhh, it's fun to think of the nights I spent at home when I was younger, lying awake in bed next to the scanner, searching the bands and listening for activity. Brings back good memories.
 

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The garbage truck drivers telling each other about the good stuff they find including the ocassional body.

The public utility guys can be fun. They don't think anyone listens to them and can be very graphic in their descriptions.

Ths school busses can get irritating with all the whinning about little Johnny acting up, but if you want to know where the traffic jams/bad roads/water over the road/or just about anything dealing with getting from point a to point b they are the best source of real time info around.

Manufacturing plants and other industrial operations can provide for some occasional excitement.

And car races, I can't believe I almost forgot to mention my other expensive habit, I mean hobby.
 
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Some people would consider utility companies and highway departments obscure things to listen to. For me, I've always researched both of these and listened to them. Highway departments are especially useful in areas where it snows a lot, like where I live. On the road I think they are indespensible as they usually go into more detail about traffic conditions than highway patrols do, plus here in California they use repeaters while the highway patrol does not. Then there are those occasions when traffic is being directed at a maintenance project and I listen in to see what the situation is and how it affects me.

As for utility companies I want to be able to listen to them when the power goes out, which in a rural area is more frequent than in an urban area. I listen to them quite frequently in order to be well versed on how their radio systems work with call signs, company organization (being able to tell where districts are and who serves what area) frequency use, terminology, and the like being things which take some time to figure out. In that way I am able to figure out what is being said when I need it the most when my lights go out. I also listen to them when a major storm hits the west coast as I'm served by Southern California Edison and they patch their troble talk groups together and I'm able to hear the effects of a storm over a wide area of the state.

Tow truck company frequencies can often have infomation about a highway incident which police, fire, and highway department frequencies don't have. The same applies to other businesses which provide service in the field. Just like utility companies, you have to listen to their rountine traffic to understand what frequencies to listen to and how to understand that traffic when an event occurs where monitoring them will provide additional information.

Knowing the frequencies of highway construction contractors alerts me to how long I might sit when traffic is being controlled by flaggers or how slow the traffic is on a detour.

Another set of frequencies I keep track of is ski areas. If I'm at a ski area and a chair shuts down, listening to them allows me to know what the problem is and if it will affect my plans, like when I'm sitting on a chair lift and it stops. I can also hear trail and grooming conditions being called in.

At amusement parks I can listen and avoid the longest lines and most congested areas, and know when a shut down attraction is coming back up. In hotels I can listen to what is going on if there is a disturbance, plumbing problem, or even hear the staff talking about me when I ask for service.

I've been in busy large restaurants and been able to figure out when I might be seated as the host or hostess is talking with people out on the floor, most often using a boom mike and earphones. I've been in line waiting for a room to be cleaned at very busy lodging establishments while listening to housekeeping talk with the front desk about their progress.

If I'm at a large public event I like to know the frequencies being used as I can often tell what is happening around me such as when a float breaks down at a parade. Often at sporting events I can hear about why something is being delayed, among many other details that are things everyone around you is wondering about but have no means to find out. I've even been in theathers and found out why the movie or the play has been stopped or is delayed in starting.

If you look around and see radios being used you will be able to come up with more situations than I have listed. The possibilities seem endless.

In public places I wear a very discrete earphone and the scanner is hidden from view as I think scanner use in many places is more obnoxious and rude than public cell phone use.

When things are happening around me, be it at a public event or at home, I'm often called by phone or asked by people around me what is going on. I'm surprised at how many scanner hobbyiests are among those people because many tend to listen to law enforcement and some fire traffic almost all the time and miss a lot because they don't know the "obscure" frequencies.

I must admit that the thrill of scanning to me is that I can listen to almost any two way radio being used around me. If I see radios in use anywhere at any time, I have a strong desire to tune in no matter how trivial the traffic may be. I just have to know. However, I think you should be able to see by my post that there is definitely a useful side to this interest.
 

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Don't know if anything is left "up there" anymore, but Inmarsat used to be fascinating.
 

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The neighbor lady on her cordless phone. Damn, I'm not even sure I can properly call her a "lady" ;)
Seriously, if ya have the patience and neighbors with older cordless phones, it can sometimes be interesting. Just don't record or otherwise divulge what you hear. THAT would be illegal. Even if she old gal was plotting to kill her hubby, it's not evidence unless the police gather the info. A strange, strange quirk in the law.

Other neat things are walkie-talkies, various private businesses and cops on stakeout. A bored cop is usually good for a few laughs. -Rod-
 

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Hi all,

"special police operations (narcotics, vice, detectives, and especially car-to-car simplex ops), private security agencies, federal government, bounty hunters, stores and malls, and military ops. There's nothing quite like stumbling upon a new frequency and trying to figure out who it is."

Have you heard about the RR database? (;->) It and other listings open a whole world outside the local cop shop BUT like them those transmissions are most likely to be or go encrypted soon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that many such operations are conducted between low power temporary bases and portables, you have to be near them to hear them. I used a UHF portable in my plant electrician's duties and even the base couldn't be heard too far off the property.

Some of the stuff can be titilating but believe me, most is boring in the extreme. Around here the boardwalk and beach patrols and life guards are a bunch of sickos, good for laughs, but last year they assisted the Coast Guard once or twice, great stuff even if the dummy who got caught in a rip was found later walking up the beach. (;->)

"The neighbor lady on her cordless phone."
Now how many times do I have to tell you guys this is NOT the stuff you go blabbering about???!!! Two good reasons, while being illegal and getting caught is not that great a concern, killing the goose is. No need to go into detail so just let it be known that if she finds out she'll raise hell first, then go spread spectrum where you can't hear her.

Something to remember always, if it's over radio it's not private and neither are these forums.

I'll leave you with this thought.
"...and cops on stakeout."
Outback Steak House delivery?
 

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USAPatriot said:
Just don't record or otherwise divulge what you hear. THAT would be illegal. Even if she old gal was plotting to kill her hubby, it's not evidence unless the police gather the info. A strange, strange quirk in the law.

Other neat things are walkie-talkies, various private businesses and cops on stakeout. A bored cop is usually good for a few laughs. -Rod-

Sounds like you got your laws twisted up. YOU listening to her conversation on the cordless phone is the ILLEGAL one. Divulging what she said is just stupidity.
 

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I had to delete the output of one of the local 900 amateur repeaters from my scanner. Why, you may ask? The neighbors cordless phone was on the same frequency. The repeater was not used that much and the risk was just to great.
 

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jhooten said:
I had to delete the output of one of the local 900 amateur repeaters from my scanner. Why, you may ask? The neighbors cordless phone was on the same frequency. The repeater was not used that much and the risk was just to great.

Seems it should have been the other way around. You should have had the FCC shut down her cordless telephone for interfering with your repeater.
 

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Adding to the obscure...

-- Drive-throughs at fast-food restaurants

-- TV minicam/control room links ("After I do the intro zoom back so you can see the bodies... Ron you're on in 4, 3, 2...")

-- Medical telemetry, manufacturing signaling, highway call-boxes and RC planes in the 72 - 76 MHz band

-- Aircraft DME navigation signals in the 1080-1200 MHz band, and TIS replies/requests at 1030 and 1090 MHz
 

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Exsmokey's habits most closely match mine. I'm looking at the less common freqs to gather info in emergencies.

A CalTrans bank is always ready to go in my scanner, especially mobile. I seldom listen to it, but I've taken the time to make sure I've got all the right freqs.

Determining school district bus frequencies can be useful in a disaster. Guess what transportation system they use to evacuate people? Ditto for public transportation. About as boring as watching paint dry 99.9999% of the time, but it's nice to be able to punch it up when you need it.

For me, much of the fun in the hobby is figuring out usage, frequencies, tones, etc. It all goes into my own frequency guide (I publish a local one for my small area).

My latest challenge is trying to figure out a very complicated (at least to me) LTR system.
 

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Funky Frequencies

Fast food drive thru's are sometimes fun...

Baby monitors.. sometimes you hear much more than a lil un' whining.. ;)

Ditto on phones (It might be illegal, but the way *I* look at it, if it's in the air, IT'S FAIR GAME. you want private, buy a corded fone' :D )

Towing companies

FRS / GMRS walky talky's

Television audio (TV the hard way)

And, as others have mentoned, your unpublished frequencies that they think no one knows about. ;)
 

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Here's another...

What about..*drumroll*

Police Lapel microphones??


Around here, when the blue lights go on, it triggers an in car camera with audio. The audio is transmitted via a lapel microphone the officer wears. They are quite sensitive.. so sensitive you can hear the officer talking, as well as the motorist he/she decides to pull over.. Sometimes you hear VERY interesting things....
 

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Ya gotta expect this next question.....
It may be in the database, but, what frequencies for the lapel mic's ?
I don't think we use them, but, worth trying.
 

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MacombMonitor said:
Seems it should have been the other way around. You should have had the FCC shut down her cordless telephone for interfering with your repeater.

Yes, but is that a battle worth the potential for hard feelings in the neighbor hood? Besides imagine if you will, what must be hapening to that poorly sheilded POS phone when I crank up a 20 watt transmitter a few megahertz away. Can you see the news that night with a headline something like this, "4 year old dies from snake bite because mother's 911 call blocked by neighbor's ham radio"? Some times being right and forcing the issue is the wrong approach for so many other reasons and you just have to bite the bullet.
 

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I would think if the equipment was operating properly on both ends, there would be no problem for either of you.
 

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The 900MHz ham band is shared with unlicensed devices (eg: cordless phones). It's quite possible that none of the equipment was operating out of spec.
 
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