This will be a slow transition on the switch over so enjoy it as long as your can. The whole county fire departments will be a 100 percent encrypted soon.
Orange County CCCS P25 Update
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This will be a slow transition on the switch over so enjoy it as long as your can. The whole county fire departments will be a 100 percent encrypted soon.
Here's a suggestion. Everyone submit a public records request to OCFA for an audio copy of the radio traffic for all incidents of a significant nature. When they complain that they are being overwhelmed by these requests, tell them to simply turn off the encryption and the public will listen for themselves.
I mean that sounds like a good idea but who really has the time to dedicate to request a copy of each audio recording on a daily basis? I think we all get your point but this is completely un realistic. Keep in mind that the OCFA and all of the Fire Departments in OC are a government agency and they have all the time in the world to provide these request. The average people daily are working just to survive and pay their bills. We do not have all the time in the world unless I won the lotto then I would raise my hand to do this for the greater good
Hey, Nathan, what is OnScene TV's position on this? I would think it would seriously impact their business in Orange County.
Could perhaps make a custom html script that would generate a public records audio recording request for every incident that comes out over PulsePoint, for every agency in the Orange County area, every day. #bruteforce
Paul
Paul
I mean that sounds like a good idea but who really has the time to dedicate to request a copy of each audio recording on a daily basis? I think we all get your point but this is completely un realistic. Keep in mind that the OCFA and all of the Fire Departments in OC are a government agency and they have all the time in the world to provide these request. The average people daily are working just to survive and pay their bills. We do not have all the time in the world unless I won the lotto then I would raise my hand to do this for the greater good
Understood. However, it doesn't need to be done every day. Just regularly enough that the recordings would still be available and OCFA can figure out that the requests will continue until the encryption is turned off.
when i did a google search i found a request form that said if a CD was requested it would cost money. Anaheim Request Form
Yeah, I saw something similar on the OCFA website. Looks like it would be $25 per incident. Not very encouraging.
RadioDaze
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A big chase passed through OC tonight and I didn't pick up any traffic. Is red dead now?
Sometimes there are big chases thru Orange County and it does not make it to the RED channel. It just might be CHP running the pursuit on their VHF Low Band system.
I know. Not good. I was living in Huntington Beach from 1994-2004 and remember the day they “flipped the switch”. One day I’m hearing HBPD and having a great time. The next day? Nothing. Zilch. Nada. It was all gone. Only CHP. No other LE in Orange County. You’ll still hear the “RED” channel, but that’s it.
WHAT “new Ventura County system”? I live in Simi and I’m a photographer for VCFD. I haven’t heard anything about any “new system”. Can you elaborate?
I still hear stuff on RED, but usually just an advisory broadcast, similar to what goes out on MED9.
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Maybe they’ll drop participation in PulsePoint when the encryption happens? No point in being on PulsePoint if everything else is “closed” to us.
I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank you, sir, for repeatedly beating us over the head with that.
Are these the same sources that told you that all OC FDs were cutting-over on 4/08 ?
Am I the only one NOT seeing this ? The CC signal on the 'North' is so bad in the North that there's no way all of the towers have been brought online already. 'same goes for the NW and the SW.
And I just heard ANA Fire run a call on 2L the other day.
All in all, this is going so much faster than the original timeline that appeared in that one PDF doc. I'm stunned they've taken so much of the old system offline to complete this in a hurry. And there doesn't really seem to be any great increase in radio traffic on the remaining cells.
I am not seeing this. The North Cell appears to be booming all along the 91 from LA County to Riverside MetroNet had cut over to the new North Cell about 2 weeks ago. I heard several incidents assigned to 2N "in zone 22", which is where the new zone 2 system is located in their radios.
One in particular was an aircraft incident at Fullerton Airport (not the fatality last week) about 2 weeks ago and apparently everyone was showing "out of range" because they were on the old 2N. Didn't get the memo. 6B and 6C were in use as well during that time.
As I type this, all North Cell assigned PD's are on the P25 North Cell.
I am sure that fire is having some growing pains going to P25, so they are likely switching back to their trunked alternate TG at times.
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Story of my life: late to the party, and with no gift, to boot.
Alright. 'hearing 'OCC' assign MEDs in Zone 26. At first glance, 'looks like the HSP-OCC talkgroups were left in the clear. Hopefully that means the new 6A will be left in the clear, as well.
Wow. Have I really been confusing a weak signal with the infamous simulcast distortion all this time ? 'would have thought I would have heard it on other systems by now (ie SCE, etc). 'guess they're not simul.
Unitrunker apparently doesn't work consistently well with LSM. 'tried SDRTrunk and didn't like it. 'tried getting DSD+ to work but was only able to get it recognize a P25 signal with no addition details. How's yours setup ?
apco25
Batlabs OG
Fire has just as sensitive comms as LE. With proper key management, OTAR, key retention, KEK and UKEK retetion seamless encryption is not just possible it's here and works flawlessly.
