P25 Hillsborough County

[Theradioman10]

Does anyone know if this is an image or if the P25 system is being broadcast on the federal band right now?
Right after clicking on the signal a whole bunch of "patch/simuselect supergroup: TG=65334, patch/simuselect subgroup: TG=501" appeared as well (with different subgroup #s)
The frequencies appear to be:

​ 169.8875 - ch1-1166​

170.5625 - ch2-1146 -

173.8125 - ch3 - 1568

Also had TDMA info on DSD, as seen in the picture.

I am not copying voice, but do see the TGs appear

Were you receiving anything on That freq 170.4875?

 

[ScubaJungle]

Were you receiving anything on That freq 170.4875?

I dont recall seeing anything on that frequency. Recently, it seems to jump between 170.5625 & 169.8875.
The transmitter must be by the VA (or perhaps on the VA), because I get close call hits on these every time I pass by.

 

[batdude]

i had the 170.4875 up briefly from my QTH.... odd thing is that DSD+ was decoding it as "SITE 41" (??) this appears to be some kind of screwy patch to/from a federal system into the 32D system (?)

certainly never seen this before.

just as i went to close this post, the freq moved to 169.8875 but the control channel "hiccups" about every 2 seconds...

this is most odd.




doug

 

[batdude]

not a fluke....

 

[ScubaJungle]

Yep, it's been up every day since the protesting. Strange because it switches between the two frequencies but then spits you over to 770.xx, but not on one of the real sites. It doesn't seem to have any activity on it either, but it did the first week.

 

[CanesFan95]

Yeah, defny no fluke. Getting a strong signal here in Tampa and gobs of stuff scrolling rapidly in the console window. Great find! Batdude, you must have one heck of an antenna to get us from all the way over there?

 

[batdude]

no, i can only hear you guys when the band is open in the late evening / early morning.... dpdproductions OmniX just above the roofline.

cheapo 800 beam pointed south

 

[zlandmedia]

no, i can only hear you guys when the band is open in the late evening / early morning.... dpdproductions OmniX just above the roofline.

cheapo 800 beam pointed south

View attachment 89162

Definitely far more advanced than my setup - a dang ol' TRX-1 with its stock antenna

 

[batdude]

that VHF federal rebroadcast or link or whatever it is... completely messed up my DSD+ data for the 32D system....


this is what I have now.... a mess.

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Network: 1E306.32D ; Hillsborough County

Bandplan #0: Base=162.6 Offset=+7.2875 Spacing=6.25 BW=6.25
Bandplan #1: Base=163.4 Offset=+7.1625 Spacing=6.25 BW=6.25
Bandplan #2: Base=164.0125 Offset=+9.8 Spacing=6.25 BW=6.25
Bandplan #8: Base=162.6 Offset=+7.2875 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Bandplan #9: Base=163.4 Offset=+7.1625 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Bandplan #10: Base=164.0125 Offset=+9.8 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 1.1 NAC=00A

Neighbor: 1E306.32D-2.2

Channel 0-45: 162.88125 CC SCC VOICE
Channel 8-90: 162.88125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-91: 162.88125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-129: 163.40625 CC SCC
Channel 8-258: 163.40625-1 VOICE
Channel 8-259: 163.40625-2 VOICE
Channel 0-213: 163.93125 CC SCC
Channel 8-426: 163.93125-1 VOICE
Channel 0-321: 164.60625 SCC VOICE
Channel 8-642: 164.60625-1 VOICE
Channel 8-643: 164.60625-2 VOICE
Channel 0-437: 165.33125 SCC VOICE
Channel 8-874: 165.33125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-875: 165.33125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-517: 165.83125 CC SCC VOICE
Channel 8-1034: 165.83125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-1035: 165.83125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-625: 166.50625 SCC VOICE
Channel 8-1250: 166.50625-1 VOICE
Channel 8-1251: 166.50625-2 VOICE
Channel 0-717: 167.08125 SCC VOICE
Channel 8-1434: 167.08125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-1435: 167.08125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-797: 167.58125 SCC
Channel 8-1594: 167.58125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-1595: 167.58125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-901: 168.23125 SCC VOICE
Channel 8-1802: 168.23125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-1803: 168.23125-2 VOICE


Site: 2.2 NAC=00A

Neighbor: 1E306.32D-1.1

Channel 0-89: 163.15625 CC SCC
Channel 8-178: 163.15625-1 VOICE
Channel 0-253: 164.18125 CC SCC
Channel 8-506: 164.18125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-507: 164.18125-2 VOICE
Channel 0-369: 164.90625 CC SCC
Channel 8-738: 164.90625-1 VOICE
Channel 8-739: 164.90625-2 VOICE
Channel 0-441: 165.35625 SCC
Channel 8-882: 165.35625-1 VOICE
Channel 8-883: 165.35625-2 VOICE
Channel 0-477: 165.58125 CC SCC
Channel 8-954: 165.58125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-955: 165.58125-2 VOICE


Site: 40.40 NAC=00A

Channel 0-21: 162.73125 CC
Channel 0-181: 163.73125 SCC


Site: 41.41 NAC=00A

Channel 0-1166: 169.8875 SCC
Channel 1-1146: 170.5625 CC

 

[CanesFan95]

Oh crap, now I need to check mine.

 

[AESFTW]

Was wondering the same thing. Nothing should be submitted until the plug is pulled on the EDACS system.

The edacs system will be active for a while after the HCFR and HCSO switch.

 

[Bolt21]

The edacs system will be active for a while after the HCFR and HCSO switch.

Ok, let me rephrase that. Nothing should be submitted until the P25 system is live full-time.

 

[zlandmedia]

Ok, let me rephrase that. Nothing should be submitted until the P25 system is live full-time.

Or until it is confirmed (after a few listens and/or talkgroup matches) that things have moved over for certain systems. Another thing to look out for is radio IDs. If the radio ID stays the same between transmissions (like it does now for the ALS channel), then that's a good indicator it's just a simulcast from the EDACS system.

 

[zlandmedia]

The edacs system will be active for a while after the HCFR and HCSO switch.

Right. Other agencies aside from TPD, TFR, HCSO, and HCFR are still active. USF PD, UT Campus Safety, HCC Public Safety, and SDHC security are still using the system.

 

[AESFTW]

I have confirmed with a source that the IDs listed will be used and are currently programmed in the new radios.

 

[Bolt21]

I have confirmed with a source that the IDs listed will be used and are currently programmed in the new radios.

As in TGIDs listed in the db for the P25 system?

Meaning current EDACS 3-digit TGIDs will be prepended by 10, and 4-digit TGIDs will be prepended by 1?

 

[AESFTW]

As in TGIDs listed in the db for the P25 system?

Meaning current EDACS 3-digit TGIDs will be prepended by 10, and 4-digit TGIDs will be prepended by 1?

This is the case for several talkgroups with a couple exceptions but yes.