people that shouldn't be on GMRS/FRS?

[kd2goe]

I am a live and let live kined of guy so i am not in to blowing pople in, but what have you heard scanning or playing with your GMRS/FRS radios?

I live in buffalo and i over heard them lifting the ice booms on my scanner a few days ago on ch 1.. i would think they wold be using some VHF marine radio?
And I have been hearing a dentist office on CH 14

and some construction workers useing them on Ch 15 & 16

 

[SteveC0625]

I am a live and let live kined of guy so i am not in to blowing pople in, but what have you heard scanning or playing with your GMRS/FRS radios?

I live in buffalo and i over heard them lifting the ice booms on my scanner a few days ago on ch 1.. i would think they wold be using some VHF marine radio?
And I have been hearing a dentist office on CH 14

and some construction workers useing them on Ch 15 & 16

There are NO restrictions on type of user on FRS Channels 1-14. While it is called Family Radio Service, anyone can use it legitimately.

We've had this same argument many times before. Why not search back and read over some of the threads. The answers to your questions are already there.

We don't really need to beat on this horse again, it's already dead enough.

 

[kd2goe]

I would say there is no restrictions in FRS on Ch 8 - 14 and no restrictions on 1 - 7 if under .5 watts looks like i wont be going to that dentist office i don't want people knowing any my personal info..

Sorry Steve i didn’t know i should have used use the time machine and waken a 2 year old or so thread, i though this was a discussion forum. I guess it is just a what the hell is wrong with you don’t you know how to use a search forum..
I hope there is nicer people on here..?
but then again i see your live in NY are your just as SUN deprived as the rest of us New yorkers.. SO chill out!


i guess it's my fault but i should have posted this as a what have you heard on FRS/GMER. not why are they using it.... that was my intention anyway

 

[SteveC0625]

I would say there is no restrictions in FRS on Ch 8 - 14 and no restrictions on 1 - 7 if under .5 watts looks like i wont be going to that dentist office i don't want people knowing any my personal info..

Sorry Steve i didn’t know i should have used use the time machine and waken a 2 year old or so thread, i though this was a discussion forum. I guess it is just a what the hell is wrong with you don’t you know how to use a search forum..
I hope there is nicer people on here..?
but then again i see your live in NY are your just as SUN deprived as the rest of us New yorkers.. SO chill out!


i guess it's my fault but i should have posted this as a what have you heard on FRS/GMER. not why are they using it.... that was my intention anyway

Look, we just had a huge discussion on this that ended about a month ago. It is a tired old subject, no matter how you ask the question.

It is forum etiquette to search first before starting a new thread. On some forums, it is even a rule.

As far as using the search function and a "what the hell is wrong with you", I did not say that. I suggested that you use it in what I thought was a pleasant manner. I do not believe I have said anything disrespectful to you.

If anybody else here thinks that I have been "not nice" or disrespectful, please say so. Most of you know that I am not a nasty person and am more than helpful on a wide variety of topics and will continue to be.

 

[kd2goe]

Well i was going to ask about a GMRS Antenna to mount on the sind of my house but i see that has been talked about before so there is no real point in even talking about any thing on her because it has been talk about before.

I guess this is a real sore point sorry i even asked.



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[WB4CS]

Yes, this topic has been beaten to death. Forums are for discussion, yes, but once a topic has been discussed at length there's really not much more to say about it I don't think Steve was being mean, it appears that you're new here and for those of us that have been here a while we tend to groan when something comes up that has already been talked about until the beaten horse is a fine powder. Look forward to other good discussions on here with you mkube396.

However, I will throw this out there. To answer your question, the only people that shouldn't be on GMRS channels are unlicensed users and bubble pack pirates. FRS is Citizens Band, along with MURS and CB. I agree that it's not in good practice for a doctors office to use FRS channels but as far as I know it's perfectly legal (unless there's some HIPPA violation but I believe even that thread has been covered before here )

 

[SteveC0625]

Well i was going to ask about a GMRS Antenna to mount on the sind of my house but i see that has been talked about before so there is no real point in even talking about any thing on her because it has been talk about before.

I guess this is a real sore point sorry i even asked.



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Actually, there are a number of good UHF antennas that would work well for GMRS but it would be helpful to know if you are transmitting or just receiving. Let me know and I can point you at several of them.

(See, nobody's got a chip on his shoulder at this end.)

 

[WB4CS]

Well i was going to ask about a GMRS Antenna to mount on the sind of my house but i see that has been talked about before so there is no real point in even talking about any thing on her because it has been talk about before.

If you need help with a GMRS antenna, search this forum here: GMRS / FRS - The RadioReference.com Forums If there's nothing there that helps you out, you should start a new discussion. But if it's already "been talked about before" and you found the information you needed, why would a new thread need to be started?

 

[redneckcellphone]

If your hearing full names and social security #s then that's bad but if the receptionist is just telling the dentist or doctor that the 4 o'clock patent has arrived who cares as long as its on frs or they for some reason have a grandfathered license to be on gmrs.


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[robertmac]

Gee, wasn't that comment about the docs office already posted in the "Doctors office using FRS" forum?

 

[kd2goe]

@ SteveC0625 sorry i was a little squeal nuts was having a bad day and i guess i took it the wrong way...

and to answer your Q about the GMRS antenna yes ill be transmitting on it. i am looking in to getting a 25~40 Watt mobile unit on E-bay, To use as a base station at our cabin I just don’t know what to get right now.
I am running Motorola 4ch CP150's and 1 32ch PR400 for hand healds
i was looking at some PM400's 25w but the software has me stumped i dont want to have to get new software if the CPS from my CP150/PR400 wont work.
so i was all so looking at some Kenwoods but i have to keep the radio cheap or the Wife will intervene..

 

[SteveC0625]

@ SteveC0625 sorry i was a little squeal nuts was having a bad day and i guess i took it the wrong way...

and to answer your Q about the GMRS antenna yes ill be transmitting on it. i am looking in to getting a 25~40 Watt mobile unit on E-bay, To use as a base station at our cabin I just don’t know what to get right now.
I am running Motorola 4ch CP150's and 1 32ch PR400 for hand healds
i was looking at some PM400's 25w but the software has me stumped i dont want to have to get new software if the CPS from my CP150/PR400 wont work.
so i was all so looking at some Kenwoods but i have to keep the radio cheap or the Wife will intervene..

Are you doing your own programming on CP150's and the PR400? If so, the PM400 and it's 32 channel brother the CM300 are programmed with the same software. FWIW, the PM400 is LTR trunking capable and that's probably something you do not need for GMRS. The CM300 is a much more economical choice with no loss in capability for your needs. Same power levels, and they look nearly identical.

Just understand that none of them are type accepted for Part 95 use which covers GMRS. There is a lot of previous discussion on the whole type acceptance thing here in this sub-forum so if you are interested in some of the back ground, it's already here for the reading. I'm not saying don't use them for GMRS, just understand where you stand. Motorola's M1225 is type accepted for GMRS and that is what I have in my truck. If there was any UHF public safety in my county, it would be a wonderful (and very legal) radio for everything. But PS is VHF around here so I have two radios.

The M1225's are selling for right around $200 used. Some of them are selling for that price even without mic, bracket, or power cable. Used CM300's, being a newer radio, are selling for more.

The Motorola sub-forum is full of stuff about both families of radios if you want more info. That may be a better area to discuss them if you want to stick with Motorola. (Not a hint or suggestion, but you'll find more Motorola guys over there and many of them don't pay any attention to the GMRS area. I find good value in both areas.)

There's tons of economical choices for a base antenna. Some are dictated by your mounting needs. Here's a link to the Antenna Farm's pages on UHF base antennas. Most any of them will work fine. UHF is neat because the antennas are not that big, and you can securely mount them with standard TV antenna mounting stuff that you can find locally. If you don't understand antennas the simple infomation is gain is measured in db; the higher the number the better. GMRS falls in the 460 MHz range so you need one that covers that area.

UHF Omni Directional Ant : The Antenna Farm :: , Your Two Way Radio Source!

 

[kd2goe]

Ok thaks ill keep a look out for Motorola's M1225 and CM300.
What software do I need for the M1225?

 

[SteveC0625]

What software do I need for the M1225?

The item is Radius 1225 CPS, part number HNV9005. The 1225 product line is discontinued but the software is still available on Motorola On Line for account holders. The programming cables are readily available on Ebay.

One point, this software likes to run best on XP computers. It installs on my Win 7 32 bit laptop, but crashes with a missing DLL error. I have an XP desktop in my office, and another in the shop. I only have 3 M1225's under my wing so pulling one of them from the trucks is no problem if I need to reprogram it.

I manage or take care of about a dozen CM300's, 16 CP200XLS's, a handful of CP150's, and a large bag of CDM750's, 1250's, and 1550's plus the 3 M1225's. Except for the 1225's, I can program all of the mobiles in the trucks and cars without pulling them.

 

[SteveC0625]

Ok thaks ill keep a look out for Motorola's M1225 and CM300

Honest suggestion. If I was in your position with several Commercial Series portables already on hand and wanted/needed a mobile, I'd consider spending a few bucks more and get the CM300 instead of the M1225. First, the programming cable for the 1225 is going to cost about the same as the price difference between the two, at least on the used market, so up front cost is a wash. You are already familiar with the CPS for the portables so you'd have virtually no learning curve to program a CM300 or even a conventional PM400. And the CPS runs fine on newer PC's and laptops. (Some folks have the 1225 CPS running on Win 7 PC's so it is doable I guess.)

But your call all the way.

 

[SteveC0625]

Honest suggestion. If I was in your position with several Commercial Series portables already on hand and wanted/needed a mobile, I'd consider spending a few bucks more and get the CM300 instead of the M1225. First, the programming cable for the 1225 is going to cost about the same as the price difference between the two, at least on the used market, so up front cost is a wash. You are already familiar with the CPS for the portables so you'd have virtually no learning curve to program a CM300 or even a conventional PM400. And the CPS runs fine on newer PC's and laptops. (Some folks have the 1225 CPS running on Win 7 PC's so it is doable I guess.)

But your call all the way.

Here's an Ebay auction that looks like it might work for you. The cost is lower than I expected, and it includes a 12vdc power supply. Even with the Priority Mail shipping option, it's a good price.
Motorola PM400 Mobile Radio Sec 1212 12 VDC P s Technician Certified Working | eBay

 

[DaveNF2G]

I found the Moto spec sheet for the PM400. Very nice indeed. However, it does not mention FCC certifications. Does anyone know if it is certified for anything beside Part 90? (Part 95 would be great.)

 

[SteveC0625]

I found the Moto spec sheet for the PM400. Very nice indeed. However, it does not mention FCC certifications. Does anyone know if it is certified for anything beside Part 90? (Part 95 would be great.)

To my knowledge, it is not certified for Part 95. I did some searching on FCC ID's but could not come up with a comprehensive list to run them all through. Generally, they are all 22, 74, & 90. (Interestingly, the VHF CM200 is Part 95 accepted.)

 

[SCPD]

A good radio that comes to mind is find a Kenwood TK-805-1 it is 25 watts, front panel programmable and part 95 certified.