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BCD996XT: Philadelphia Fire

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I have a Uniden BCD996XT with the factory antenna and live just a couple miles outside of West Philadelphia. I used Radio Reference and ARC XT to program my scanner. It will not pick up Philadelphia Police or Fire.. It keeps saying finding control channel, same with chester county.

Anyone have a suggestion?
 

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CHESTER CTY APPEARS CONVENTIONAL,according to Sentenial. Do you see any indication that youy are receiving a carrier. Try some conventional stuff, then try some other p25 systems..
 

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Finding Control Channel means that the scanner is not detecting a control channel on any of the programmed frequencies. You are either out of range or don't have the correct frequency programmed.

Also, Fire and PD are on a Phase II system. If they are TDMA, you won't receive it on a BCD996XT.
 

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For Chester County, PD / FD are on a LTR Multinet. There are no scanners currently available that will track LTR MultiNet systems.
 
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Also for Philadelphia, from what I've seen in the PA forum, you have to live in the city to receive them. More than a mile or so outside the city limits, and you won't hear them. Apparantly, their transmitter sites are on the edge of the city, and facing inward.

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Just doing a quick glance at the FCC license, it appears they aren't putting out much transmitter power - less than 100 watts. So coverage area may be limited.

This is probably a "Hail Mary" thing, but I would try entering all of the frequencies associated with this system. There is a remote chance they are using a different control channel frequency - one that hasn't been identified as such in the DB. Presuming you've downloaded the system data vis software only those marked as control channel and alternates are downloaded.

Another thing you might try: If you can take your scanner mobile, I'd go toward the city to where you start receiving comms. Then head back home and see where comms fall off. If they drop off a short distance from your home, you might consider an outside antenna mounted as high as you can.
 

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Anywhere outside the city limits seems to curtail and reception. Reception can be spotty within the city limits as well. Their system was designed to limit where the signal goes.
 
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Anywhere outside the city limits seems to curtail and reception. Reception can be spotty within the city limits as well. Their system was designed to limit where the signal goes.
Just an observation, from I see in the Philly/South Jersey area the majority of the trunking systems systems are engineered to cover just what they need to. My theory on this is that trunk systems use so many frequencies that the engineers and the FCC want to reuse some frequencies just out of line of site from a site. They also use lower power also in order to help reuse of frequencies.

Just my humble opinion.
 
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