PHX Fire Codes

[chris480]

Anyone know where I can find what the equipment and codes are for PHX Fire? I have heard, LT, and LZ on the air but can not find any good information as to what an LT unit is etc... If there is a place that lists these that would be great! Also are the Units #s correspond to the fire station #? Example if I live close to station 35 are there rescues and trucks all contain #35 in them? Also one other question I have always wondered about is do all the stations hear Alarm? I would think that would get very annoying if every station heard every call that went out, or do they have away of only alerting the station that needs to respond? If so how can we program the scanner to only pick up alarms for certain stations?

Thanks

 

[jeremyphoto23]

I don't know much about PHX Fire, but their website appears to have some good info in it..

http://phoenix.gov/webcms/groups/internet/@inter/@dept/@fire/documents/web_content/094635.pdf

http://phoenix.gov/webcms/groups/in...fire/documents/web_content/firestationmap.pdf

http://phoenix.gov/fire/aboutus/locations/index.html




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[jeremyphoto23]

Station 35
646 E. Paradise Lane, Phoenix, AZ 85022-2525
Engine 35, Engine 935, Brush 35, Rescue 35



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[chris480]

Station 35
646 E. Paradise Lane, Phoenix, AZ 85022-2525
Engine 35, Engine 935, Brush 35, Rescue 35



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Cool thanks so I kinda figured right then that they have the station # in there call # I have heard some 100's as well but don't see any stations in the 100s such as 165 etc... Do they just put the 1 before the station number? So 165 would be 65?

 

[chris480]

I don't know much about PHX Fire, but their website appears to have some good info in it..

http://phoenix.gov/webcms/groups/internet/@inter/@dept/@fire/documents/web_content/094635.pdf

http://phoenix.gov/webcms/groups/in...fire/documents/web_content/firestationmap.pdf

Official Site of the City of Phoenix - Fire Station Locations and Apparatus




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Thanks ill look through it for sure.

 

[desert-cheetah]

Cool thanks so I kinda figured right then that they have the station # in there call # I have heard some 100's as well but don't see any stations in the 100s such as 165 etc... Do they just put the 1 before the station number? So 165 would be 65?

The 100s aren't Phoenix Fire but rather possibly a neighboring community they dispatch for. Both Glendale and Peoria have trucks in the 100s, but not 165 that I can find.

 

[chris480]

The 100s aren't Phoenix Fire but rather possibly a neighboring community they dispatch for. Both Glendale and Peoria have trucks in the 100s, but not 165 that I can find.

Thanks I was just using 165 as an example I think I understand now.

 

[chris480]

I guess my next question that I cant find on the site is what are the different items such as E36, C172, HD67 etc...

 

[chris480]

Some others are R25,PI3,BC3,SDC,FI20,CR25

 

[Phoenix805]

I think you've been given pretty good info and the links have great info. Now to add my 2 cents worth.

Much of the fire department 'language' across the valley has been standardized, BUT, many departments still use similar codes for different things. It can be fun but also a pain learning to understand what you're listening to.

You mentioned R25. R25 is Rescue 25. As you probably know Phoenix uses it's own Ambulances, but call them Rescues. R25 is Rescue 25 - or the ambulance stationed at Sta. 25.

Glendale contracts with Southwest Ambulance, and SW has about 6-8 it keeps in Glendale for fire dept medical calls. They use a numbering system similar to Glendale Fire, such as SW 151. As a side note, Glendale typically assigns an ambulance by default on their medical calls. Phoenix typically does not. When the paramedics arrive on scene they request an ambulance (Rescue) if needed.

 

[Phoenix805]

A few more to get you started FIs are Fire Investigators. They just recently changed from 'Car' 504, etc.
CR Vans are Crisis Response Vans. They typically are dispatched to major fires, fatalities, etc and offer emotional support and helpful information for victims and families. BCs are Battalion Chiefs (there are 9 if I'm not mistaken), SDC and NDC are South and North Deputy Chiefs.

LT are Ladder Tenders. They are smaller trucks that ladder crews can take on medical calls without running the big expensive ladder trucks. LZ is for Landing Zone. When a helicopter is dispatched they assign a man (or crew) to the landing zone to ensure the chopper can sit down safely. They find a clear area, check for overhead wires, etc.

 

[Phoenix805]

someone already mentioned that 100's belong to other departments. Just to expand on that a bit - Odd hundred numbers (101-199, 301-399, 501-599) are all west side, Glendale, Sun City, Avondale, Surprise, etc. Even hundred numbers (201-299, 401-199, 601-699) are all east side, Scottsdale, Gilbert, Tempe, Mesa, etc.

Phoenix has a few 'extra' trucks to which they add a 9 at the beginning, for instance there's an Engine 10 and an Engine 910, and Engine 60 and an engine 960.

Several departments have 'Squads', and that can refer to different types of equipment even in the same department, let alone different departments. It can get confusing.

Station 8 has a Squad 8 which is a 'heavy rescue' unit, and a Support 8, which is a 'technical rescue' unit. Squad 44 is a 'rapid response' unit.

Peoria and Glendale have MC units, but they're different. Glendale's is a 'Medic Cart' (fancy golf cart) they use for quick access at the arena. Peoria's are 'Mass Casualty' units.

 

[chris480]

Phoenix805 Thanks for the great info

 

[Phoenix805]

Two more things then I'll shut up! Here's 2 more links you might enjoy:

https://htms.phoenix.gov/publicweb/Default.aspx

This is a web page where Phoenix (Valley wide) dispatches are posted. Not everything is shown, basically just 'public' things that the public might already be aware of, such as accidents and building fires. They don't show things of a personal matter such as heart attacks. They also don't use exact addresses, only intersections or hundred blocks.

Phoenix Fire Department Apparatus

This guy has hundreds of pics of Phoenix Fire vehicles

OK, I'm done for awhile!

 

[chris480]

I also found the online incidents that PFD puts online pretty cool, now only if we could get PPD to do that LOL Anyways I noticed there where a few major house fires tonight, but they seem to be worked on the old Analog channels and when I scan those I never hear anything but Alarm, I hear K Deck very well though on the digital side. How do they decide what stays on the old system and what goes on the Digital system and am I doing something wrong that I don't hear the calls on the A channels?

 

[chris480]

Two more things then I'll shut up! Here's 2 more links you might enjoy:

https://htms.phoenix.gov/publicweb/Default.aspx

This is a web page where Phoenix (Valley wide) dispatches are posted. Not everything is shown, basically just 'public' things that the public might already be aware of, such as accidents and building fires. They don't show things of a personal matter such as heart attacks. They also don't use exact addresses, only intersections or hundred blocks.

Phoenix Fire Department Apparatus

This guy has hundreds of pics of Phoenix Fire vehicles

OK, I'm done for awhile!

Thanks! I just came across the publicweb I really never use to listen to Fire but lately I have and its pretty interesting.

 

[Phoenix805]

OK, one more thing, then I'll quit, I promise.

You asked about dispatches. As far as I know I believe every dispatch goes to every station. I think they have to listen to them all. At least it used to be that way, and I'm not aware that it changed. Likewise there is no way that I know of to listen only to selected dispatches, such as only those for station 34. That might be nice, but it can't be done.

 

[chris480]

OK, one more thing, then I'll quit, I promise.

You asked about dispatches. As far as I know I believe every dispatch goes to every station. I think they have to listen to them all. At least it used to be that way, and I'm not aware that it changed. Likewise there is no way that I know of to listen only to selected dispatches, such as only those for station 34. That might be nice, but it can't be done.

Yikes that sucks! I would hate to be trying to sleep at the fire station and hear every call come through... Thanks for all your info I appreciate it, and hey I think we are the only ones up this late on a Friday night on here LOL

 

[Phoenix805]

I can't answer that, I promised to shut up! OK, you twisted my arm. To make a long story as short as I can..... The real answer is kind of long, but essentially when they are working a fire they use the old analog channels. It has to do a lot with how the digital channels HAVE to go through the computerized relay/repeater/digital/simulcast etc. system and when a firefighter is inside a burning building there's a good chance he won't be able to get out on the digital system. With the old analog channels anyone within a mile or so should always be able to hear the radio and the firefighters can always talk to each other.

The digital channels (bad choice of words, but you know what i mean) are more efficient in outdoor areas and are used on accidents and medical calls.

Why can't you hear the analog channels? Essentially because most communications are done with 5 watt walkie talkies and can generally only be heard for a mile or so. How does dispatch hear them? It's an interesting system. They have something like 10 TALL antennas around town and one or another is just about guaranteed to pick up a signal. The 10 antennas all feed their signals back to the alarm room where a system chooses the loudest signal and sends just that one back to the dispatcher, so he can hear pretty much anything in the city. This way everyone's on one frequency and they don't have to use repeaters.

 

[car55]

I also found the online incidents that PFD puts online pretty cool, now only if we could get PPD to do that LOL Anyways I noticed there where a few major house fires tonight, but they seem to be worked on the old Analog channels and when I scan those I never hear anything but Alarm, I hear K Deck very well though on the digital side. How do they decide what stays on the old system and what goes on the Digital system and am I doing something wrong that I don't hear the calls on the A channels?

The Tampa police do it.

http://www.tampagov.net/appl_police_calls_for_service/frmCallsList.asp

It even allows you back calls by some days and also crime maps too .

City of Tampa Police Department

Has for Phoenix fire and EMS you going be disappointed most every thing is done by computer not by radio. Things like on the way , on the scene ,leaving scene , back at station so on done by the computer.


Also stuff like E4 go to address xx for trouble breathing check computer for more info.