Port Dover, ON. Frequencies Needed

[OntarioScannerNut]

Unfamiliar with the area. A buddy of mine phoned me tonite looking for frequencies for the Region surrounding Port Dover.

Besides what's listed for Haldimand/Norfolk Counties, what all should I be looking at. I think I can cover the basic's for OPP.

I would say a good 40-50 km range would be good.

I need the following.

OPP/Police/Fire/EMS and Marine stuff. He tell's me he see's all the big ships outside his house all the time an would like to know why they're sitting there all the time.

Hope you guy's can help me out here.

Again, like I said, I'm not familiar with the region so I don't know what's good an bad for distance there.

He had also requested stuff for Erie Pennsylvania as well.

 

[FPO703]

There's some information for Erie, Pennsylvania here in the DB.

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=2265

As for the other stuff, I'm not even going to guess since I'm not from the area. But, OPP should be on the Bell Fleetnet Zone 1 system located here

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=861

Hope that helps some.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

For one, he doesn't know what type of radio he's getting although he know's it has 200 ch's and Tone Board. I looked through the stuff for PA but didn't quite know what to put down for him.

From RR/MonitorOntario/TAFL this is what I've been able to come up with.

Please keep them coming if I've missed anything. As far as Trunking or anything digital, that's out of the question. I know for one, he won't have a big antenna setup, probably just something for the back of the radio.

OPP

413.5375 OPP BEAT - Simcoe
411.31250 R 107.2 VR 01 Vehicular Repeater
410.86250 R 123.0 VR 02 Vehicular Repeater
411.51250 R 136.5 VR 03 Vehicular Repeater
408.13750 R First Nations F1 FM
408.31250 R First nations F2 FM
148.76500 148.76500 B SIM 11 Com Centre Simplex Frequency


Fire

143.580000 148.585000 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
143.760000 148.810000 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
153.815000 SIMCOE ONTARIO THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
150.470000 HALDIMAND COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT
154.860000 153.965000 OHSWEKEN SIX NATIONS COUNCIL FIRE DEPT

153.8750 Haldimand County Fire
154.0700 Haldimand County Fire - OFM
153.8450 Haldimand County Fire - Brant Co. Link (Nanticoke)
153.7700 Nanticoke Fire (Jarvis XJL871; Selkirk XJK534
154.4000 Dunnville Fire (Dunnville XJI916)
154.1300 Nanticoke Fire
154.3400 Nanticoke Fire
154.4000 Nanticoke Fire
154.7100 Nanticoke Fire
417.0625 Nanticoke Fire (Jarvis)

EMS

150.1000 Hamilton CACC - PCOMM
149.4400 Hamilton CACC - Stn. Pagers (Dunnville; Hagersville)
155.4900 Hamilton CACC - Dispatch
149.6050 Hamilton CACC - PTAC

There's some information for Erie, Pennsylvania here in the DB.

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=2265

As for the other stuff, I'm not even going to guess since I'm not from the area. But, OPP should be on the Bell Fleetnet Zone 1 system located here

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=861

Hope that helps some.

 

[jellotor]

Well, if he has no digital scanner, SIM 11 will be out of the question as it is P25...everything else looks reasonably sound, though.

 

[mikewazowski]

Well, if he has no digital scanner, SIM 11 will be out of the question as it is P25...everything else looks reasonably sound, though.

Sim11 is analog not digital.

 

[jellotor]

I get P25 conversations from the OPP on SIM11 all the time here in Hamilton. Are we talking about different SIM11s?

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

So which one is the main repeater for these one's? This is the input/output of these from TAFL.

Fire

143.580000 148.585000 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
143.760000 148.810000 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
154.860000 153.965000 OHSWEKEN SIX NATIONS COUNCIL FIRE DEPT

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[mciupa]

I looked through the stuff for PA but didn't quite know what to put down for him.

As far as Trunking or anything digital, that's out of the question... he won't have a big antenna setup, just something for the back of the radio.

For Erie, Penn. he could monitor the Erie Police,Fire and Emergcare(EMS)
County VHF-Lo band Fire .

I stayed in Erie for a week in July,2003 and made those submissions to the
database, which were verified by an administrator and posted.

Not familiar with the County Law Enforcement freq.'s(didn't submit those)

Their area is fairly active, and I'd like to know if he hears more action
from Stateside as opposed to Ontario.

 

[FPO703]

There are a handful of FDs in Erie County, PA that are now on UHF.

 

[mikewazowski]

I get P25 conversations from the OPP on SIM11 all the time here in Hamilton. Are we talking about different SIM11s?

The only Sim11 I know of is 148.7650 and there is no digital on it at all.

Either you've got a different frequency for Sim 11 or you've got interference problems.

 

[jellotor]

Mike,

Interference how? It's a fairly intermittent thing, these P25 comms on Sim11, but typically they are an entire transmission and are clean, perhaps a 4 or 5 strength on the S-meter at home. (On the road the signal strength is different, of course.)

 

[mikewazowski]

Interference as there are no digital comm's on Sim 11. It's an analog only frequency who's purpose was to replace the old Sim 1 which was analog only as well.

I've seen the equipment used for Sim 11 at the tower sites and it does not support digital at all. If you've got digital on it then it's either some sort of interference or something coming out of the US.

Scanners are notorious for overloading which can cause all sorts of crap to come in.

 

[jellotor]

Respectfully, (as you know more about this stuff than I do) I'm just not sure about interference as the cause. Interference would be a function of geographical location or proximity to interfering signals, correct?

I have had the same 'problem' regardless of where I use the scanner: at home, on the road in my vehicle, at work or on the road in the news truck with the ducky antenna or an external one. It would seem logical to me, then, that there's something funky in the way the scanner is programmed...since it is the only common item.

Either that, or I radiate P25 comms...I guess the voices in my head have gone digital...

Anyway, Mike, thanks for the help...I'll reprogram the scanner and see if I eliminate the problem.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

Ok, out of the frequencies provided. Will that suffice for atleast a decent radius around Port Dover.

I'm not sure as to what type of antenna he'll be using (but I doubt it'd be very large) or what type of radio yet. I'll be speaking with him later tonite. I'll find out more if I can.

But I just need a good list of ACTIVE stuff around the area.


Frequency PL Tone Description
413.53750 107.2 OPP BEAT (Simcoe) - Haldimand Norfolk East 6Oscar (6Q First Nations)
411.3125 107.2 VR 01 Vehicular Repeater
410.86250 123.0 VR 02 Vehicular Repeater
411.51250 136.5 VR 03 Vehicular Repeater
148.765 OPP Sim11
153.77000 Region wide Fire
154.40000 Region wide Fire
154.34000 Fire West (Delhi) FM
153.77000 Fire East FM
150.47000 Fire
150.1000 Hamilton CACC - PCOMM
149.4400 Hamilton CACC - Stn. Pagers (Dunnville; Hagersville)
155.4900 Hamilton CACC - Dispatch
149.6050 Hamilton CACC - PTAC

Fire

143.580 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
143.760 BLOOMSBURG THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
153.815 SIMCOE ONTARIO THE CORPORATION OF NORFOLK COUNTY NORFOLK FIRE & EMS DIVISION
154.860 OHSWEKEN SIX NATIONS COUNCIL FIRE DEPT

153.8750 Haldimand County Fire
154.0700 Haldimand County Fire - OFM
153.8450 Haldimand County Fire - Brant Co. Link (Nanticoke)
154.1300 Nanticoke Fire
154.3400 Nanticoke Fire
154.4000 Nanticoke Fire
154.7100 Nanticoke Fire
417.0625 Nanticoke Fire (Jarvis)

Basically, what do I need and not need for Fire/EMS and also, is there any 'local' Police dept's in the area also that he may be able to pick up.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

Well he phoned back and I gave him these. Apparently he's got a Pro2036 not much of a radio but still none the less a decent radio.

Anyways, he phoned back a second time and was happier than pig's in "mud" :roll: anyway's, he's set up for the time being, I'm sure he'll find his way around.

I told him though that he should jimmy rig it somehow so he can hook it up to the tv antenna on top of the tower outside his house. Which he failed to tell me he had.

Anyhow, I'm sure I'll have to hook him up for frequencies for travelling throughout the province later this month. As he lives his life as a carnie.

So. What all shall he use for travelling, is the database pretty well complete for local forces across the province then if I were to list all or most of the stuff from here?

I'll have to check the route list to try an take it from there.

He was quite happy though that he was able to hear the Simcoe Beat pretty decent but VR02 came in better. I explained to him why that was, but I'm sure it'll suit him.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

Well my buddy asked if I could search out some frequencies for him. Using this database and the gov't. database, I couldn't find anything on the following frequencies.

154.8000
150.9500
153.8550
148.3850
155.7250

All this from Port Dover. So far he's found some other decent ones.

He did mention hearing the Plows on 141.675 but I notice that's not in the database here anywhere for a fleetnet frequency in the area.

 

[mikewazowski]

153.8550
148.3850
155.7250

I think you need to adjust the frequencies to fit the bandplan:

153.855 should either be 153.860 or 153.845.
148.385 should either be 148.380 or 148.395.
155.725 should either be 155.715 or 155.730.

141.6750 is probably off the Simcoe tower.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

Ok, well, with 141.675 I see just Ipperwash an King City, so if your suggesting the simcoe tower then for that frequency then there's one for ya to check into then.


>>153.855 should either be 153.860 or 153.845.

well, 153.845 would look like it fits in then, for either fire or Roads Dept but the signal was on 153.855 though. 153.845 looks to be for City/County of Brant County???? and Haldimand Co. already which I've included in his list before.

>>>148.385 should either be 148.380 or 148.395.

Nothing found on those.

>>>155.725 should either be 155.715 or 155.730.

151.820000 155.715000 ONTARIO-WIDE (ML RPTRS) Her Majesty The Queen in Right of The Province of Ontario (GMCO)
155.715000 151.820000 TORONTO, ONT. METRO AREA (VHF ML) Works & Emergency Services EMS Division, Attn: Irina Pantofaru

Who knows with these ones????

153.8550
148.3850
155.7250

I think you need to adjust the frequencies to fit the bandplan:

153.855 should either be 153.860 or 153.845.
148.385 should either be 148.380 or 148.395.
155.725 should either be 155.715 or 155.730.

141.6750 is probably off the Simcoe tower.

 

[mikewazowski]

Ok, well, with 141.675 I see just Ipperwash an King City, so if your suggesting the simcoe tower then for that frequency then there's one for ya to check into then.

Yeah, I'll get right on it for ya. I'm not in the area so don't count on a speedy response.[/quote]

>>153.855 should either be 153.860 or 153.845.

well, 153.845 would look like it fits in then, for either fire or Roads Dept but the signal was on 153.855 though. 153.845 looks to be for City/County of Brant County???? and Haldimand Co. already which I've included in his list before.

No, the signal was not on 153.855Mhz. 153.855 is not within the 15khz steps of that band. Your friends scanner stopped on the wrong frequency. As you've already figured out, nobody in Canada is licenced on that frequency.

153.845 is the Brant County fire frequency and would be easily heard from Port Dover.

 

[OntarioScannerNut]

Thanks buddy. Your so kind.

153.845 is that just for Brant county then or is it for both Brant and Haldimond-Norfolk?

And about the frequency mix up. Your probably right.

Ok, well, with 141.675 I see just Ipperwash an King City, so if your suggesting the simcoe tower then for that frequency then there's one for ya to check into then.

Yeah, I'll get right on it for ya. I'm not in the area so don't count on a speedy response.

>>153.855 should either be 153.860 or 153.845.

well, 153.845 would look like it fits in then, for either fire or Roads Dept but the signal was on 153.855 though. 153.845 looks to be for City/County of Brant County???? and Haldimand Co. already which I've included in his list before.

No, the signal was not on 153.855Mhz. 153.855 is not within the 15khz steps of that band. Your friends scanner stopped on the wrong frequency. As you've already figured out, nobody in Canada is licenced on that frequency.

153.845 is the Brant County fire frequency and would be easily heard from Port Dover.[/quote] 8) :wink: