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I think he politely did that again today!!o_O
Good. Screw Pelosi that POS! Nancy and Schumer want to work with the President while stabbing him in the back at the same time. Good move Mr. President! And at the end of the day the Democrats will have absolutely no achievements that benefit the citizens of this country. The democrats are just plain STUPID! Let them continue with the endless investigations. This will guaranty a restoral of Republican majority control in the house next election cycle! I love it! :)
 
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Andrew McCabe during sworn testimony stated that the so called "dirty dossier" was key to getting the FISA warrant. If that doesn't help just sit back and wait. The IG's report should be out in June and we all know AG Barr is also investigating FBI and DOJ corruption and abuse of power so it will all be out there for all to see. But the fact that any of it was used at all should be of great concern to you or anybody who stands up for Americans civil liberties and against abuse of power. This is not a banana republic.
House GOP releases memo detailing FBI surveillance abuses against Trump campaign



Any one of them. If the dirty dossier was used at all and was presented to the court to be something that it was not, that is called malicious and intentional deception not to mention a violation of Mr. Pages 4th amendment rights. Does any of this concern you Jim? It should because if they can do that to a Presidential candidate, they can do it to any American.
Rob,

The redacted copies of these FISA warrants that were released to the public were so heavily redacted that there was no way to tell whether the dossier material was a trivial, minor, or major element of the asserted probable cause used to apply for the warrant.

My understanding is that some portions of the dossier have been independently verified by the FBI and other portions have not.

If you read the Mueller Report you will find 5 pages of information discussing Carter Page. He has not been charged or accused of a crime. In the 5 pages there is information that seems to support probable cause for a FISA warrant. The dossier is not mentioned in those 5 pages.

I am content to wait for the DOJ Inspector General's Report. I base my judgments on facts, not speculation or opinions. So far, the discussions of the Carter Page FISA situation has been lacking in supporting facts and heavily based on speculation and opinions.

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Rob,

The redacted copies of these FISA warrants that were released to the public were so heavily redacted that there was no way to tell whether the dossier material was a trivial, minor, or major element of the asserted probable cause used to apply for the warrant.
Like I said, lets see what the IG report and AG Barr's investigation has to say about that. But the very fact that Hillary Clintons paid for political dirt was used at all by the FBI against her opponent's campaign is absolutely disturbing to say the least. Couple that with all the political bias uncovered, the lies, unmasking and leaking is all in my opinion the thread that ties this whole conspiracy together.

My understanding is that some portions of the dossier have been independently verified by the FBI and other portions have not.
Ok, explain to me your understanding of what exactly was verified at the time the dirty dossier was used to get the search warrant against the Trump campaign because according to James Comey it was all salacious and unverified. The frigging dossier was compiled by a foreign agent that the FBI eventually deemed not credible and refused to work with because he was discovered to be a leaking liar. But ultimately certain members of the FBI and DOJ found a way around that.

If you read the Mueller Report you will find 5 pages of information discussing Carter Page. He has not been charged or accused of a crime.
So don't you find that puzzling? Three warrants and yet no charges? That is pretty suspicious. They used Carter Page and violated his 4th amendment rights just to get warrants and spies in the Trumps campaign.

In the 5 pages there is information that seems to support probable cause for a FISA warrant. The dossier is not mentioned in those 5 pages.
So then why in the hell was it used at all if they had enough evidence to obtain a search warrant???

I am content to wait for the DOJ Inspector General's Report. I base my judgments on facts, not speculation or opinions. So far, the discussions of the Carter Page FISA situation has been lacking in supporting facts and heavily based on speculation and opinions. Jim41
I have a certain level of respect for your commentary to a point because you seem to be a level headed guy but once again I provided some facts for you but you always seem to ignore the facts and pivot.
 
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Aside from all of all of Bills multiple sex scandals like rape, sexual assault and getting blow jobs in the WH, the Washington Times compiled a small list of a few other scandals for you to chew on.
From their opinion and commentary section. Some of these are not scandals. Some are. Let's revisit a few. Then, maybe we can make a similar list of Trump controversies. I believe the argument was whether or not the Clintons are THE MOST corrupt. They're not 100% squeeky clean, but I think I can show that Trump is far worse.

1. Monica Lewinsky: Led to only the second president in American history to be impeached.
No argument there. I wish to note, however, that my vote to Bill Clinton occurred before this scandal.

2. Benghazi: Four Americans killed, an entire system of weak diplomatic security uncloaked, and the credibility of a president and his secretary of state damaged.
Tragic. But ten investigations, including six by Republican led committees found NO evidence of wrongdoing by either Clinton or anyone else in the Obama administration. Hadn't there been a reduction in Embassy security funding by Republicans in Congress?

4. Hillary’s private emails: Hundreds of national secrets already leaked through private email and the specter of a criminal probe looming large.
No evidence of secrets leaked. 30,000 emails, no evidence the server was actually hacked. 100 emails contained classified material, most of which was made classified after the fact. very few were marked classified. Colin Powell, and others, had similar private email servers.

5. Whitewater: A large S&L failed and several people went to prison.
Yes they did. No evidence of wrongdoing by the Clintons.

6. Travelgate: The firing of the career travel office was the very first crony capitalism scandal of the Clinton era.
Yep, Hillary is a *****.

7. Humagate: An aide’s sweetheart job arrangement.
How dos that compare to Trump's kids working in the White House?

8. Pardongate: The first time donations were ever connected as possible motives for presidential pardons.
There was one pardon out of hundreds that was "questionable". It's one of those executive privilege things, though. You shouyld understand that one. It's a sitting President's right to pardon whoever he wants. Right?

15. Troopergate: From the good old days, did Arkansas state troopers facilitate Bill Clinton’s philandering?
I don't know. Did they? Did Trump brag about grabbing women by the p***y? Maybe none of it matters because it occurred outside the White House. Pick a standard of behavior, Rob, and make it apply to Trump as well.

16. Gennifer Flowers: The tale that catapulted a supermarket tabloid into the big time.
Stormy Daniels.Marla Maples. Melania Knause. Karen McDougal. Natasha Stoynoff. Summer Zervos. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Ok, so he married a couple of them. They started out as affairs when he was married to others.

17. Bill’s Golden Tongue: His and her speech fees shocked the American public.
This is a scandal? It's capitalism. I recall you proudly proclaiming that you were a capitalist, Rob. Is capitalism bad when a Democrat does it?

20. The cattle futures: Hillary as commodity trader extraordinaire.
More evil capitalism?
 

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Sounds like Iran, China, North Korea. Have you ever considered emigrating? These places do things you like to people.
Well if Bill should be executed for getting head in the Oval Office, then lying about it, what kind of punishment should trump get for lying, and covering up his sex with porn stars using campaign funds?

I should think that deserves a firing squad according to prcguy.


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Aside from all of all of Bills multiple sex scandals like rape, sexual assault and getting blow jobs in the WH, the Washington Times compiled a small list of a few other scandals for you to chew on.
And now, here's a list of things for YOU to chew on. Becareful not to choke, though. Remember... chew, swallow, breath.

Sexual-Assault Allegations,Various, 1970s-2005

The Beauty Pageant Scandals, Various, 1992-present

Racial Housing Discrimination,New York City, 1973-1975

Mafia Ties, New York and Atlantic City, 1970s- ?

Trump University, 2005-2010, online

Tenant Intimidation, New York City, 1982-1986

The Bankruptcies, 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009

The Undocumented Polish Workers, New York City, 1980

Alleged Marital Rape, New York City, 1989

Breaking Casino Rules, New York and New Jersey, various

Antitrust Violations, New Jersey, 1986

Condo Hotel Scandal,New York, Florida, Mexico, mid-2000s

Corey Lewandowski, Jupiter, Florida, 2016

Suing Journalist Tim O’Brien for Libel, New York City, 2006-2009

Refusing to Pay Workers and Contractors, various, 1980s-present

Trump Institute, Boca Raton and elsewhere, 2005-?

Buying Up His Own Books, various, 2016

Undocumented Models, New York, 1999-?

The Trump Foundation, Various, 1988-present

The Cuban Embargo, Cuba, 1998-present

Emoluments. 2017-present

The FBI Building, 2017-present

But Their Emails, 6 Trump staffers using private emails. 2017-present

Kushner’s Security Clearance, 2017

Cabinet Conflicts of interest and high turnover, 2017-present

The Inaugural Size Scandal, 2017

Golf expenses $100 million+, 2017-present

Trump Inc. is expanding overseas.2017-present

Kushner Inc. soliciting foreign investment, 2017-present

Cabinet officials make unethical stock trades.2017-present

Obstruction of justice, 2017-present

Russian Collusion, 2017-present

10,000 lies and counting, 2016-present

Lost over $1 billion, 1985-1994
 
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And now, here's a list of things for YOU to chew on. Becareful not to choke, though. Remember... chew, swallow, breath.

Sexual-Assault Allegations,Various, 1970s-2005

The Beauty Pageant Scandals, Various, 1992-present

Racial Housing Discrimination,New York City, 1973-1975

Mafia Ties, New York and Atlantic City, 1970s- ?

Trump University, 2005-2010, online

Tenant Intimidation, New York City, 1982-1986

The Bankruptcies, 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009

The Undocumented Polish Workers, New York City, 1980

Alleged Marital Rape, New York City, 1989

Breaking Casino Rules, New York and New Jersey, various

Antitrust Violations, New Jersey, 1986

Condo Hotel Scandal,New York, Florida, Mexico, mid-2000s

Corey Lewandowski, Jupiter, Florida, 2016

Suing Journalist Tim O’Brien for Libel, New York City, 2006-2009

Refusing to Pay Workers and Contractors, various, 1980s-present

Trump Institute, Boca Raton and elsewhere, 2005-?

Buying Up His Own Books, various, 2016

Undocumented Models, New York, 1999-?

The Trump Foundation, Various, 1988-present

The Cuban Embargo, Cuba, 1998-present

Emoluments. 2017-present

The FBI Building, 2017-present

But Their Emails, 6 Trump staffers using private emails. 2017-present

Kushner’s Security Clearance, 2017

Cabinet Conflicts of interest and high turnover, 2017-present

The Inaugural Size Scandal, 2017

Golf expenses $100 million+, 2017-present

Trump Inc. is expanding overseas.2017-present

Kushner Inc. soliciting foreign investment, 2017-present

Cabinet officials make unethical stock trades.2017-present

Obstructionb of justice, 2017-present

Russian Collusion, 2017-present

10,000 lies and counting, 2016-present
But, but, but, her emails


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Just saw a bit of trump’s rose garden... press conference...

He really is losing it. Who the actual "duck" referred to them selves in the third person? Like reallly. That orange **** stain really is losing his mind.

Three doozy lies just in the bit I watched:

-Trump is the most transparent president of all time.

-Trump doesn’t do coverups.

-No obstruction.

How embarrassing it must be to be an American with that idiot as your leader.


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Most of the crap the Trumpflake amigos spew in here is false.
The problem is their source material. Fox News, Breitbart, Redstate, InfoWars, Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

The problem with those outlets is that they don't fact check, they source themselves or each other, and their viewers like what they hear, so that's all they listen to. Trump captures the mentality perfectly as he declares himself the most transparent president in the history of this country, while at the same time he's ignoring congressional subpoenas, working feverishly to keep his finances secret, and walks out on meetings saying "stop investigating me or no deals".

His fan club sucks it up, and believes him, because they won't expose themselves to divergent opinions.
 

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I have never heard campaign funds were used to pay anyone, otherwise who cares who Trump screws as a private citizen. Bill did his thing while president within the white house and lied to the world about it.


Well if Bill should be executed for getting head in the Oval Office, then lying about it, what kind of punishment should trump get for lying, and covering up his sex with porn stars using campaign funds?

I should think that deserves a firing squad according to prcguy.


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