President George II

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President George II

GEORGE II - AM/FM/SSB - CB Radio / Ham Radio - President Electronics

CB Radio - AM / FM / SSB - GEORGE II

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Starting a thread so that the latest & greatest from President has a discussion home.

General release in EU is just up ahead. Price is high at the moment, but so is demand.


All I know is that I really want one. I don’t see anything quite different from the Anytone Q5/Ares (power output excepted), so I already “know” that this pair of ears ought to be as good as what can be had.

— One way or another I’ve wound up with President antenna, microphones, and transceivers for my pickup truck and have decided that this radio deserves center spot.

— A wireless Liberty mic, and a Randy are how I see making the most of a travelers Citizen Band radio rig. (Digimike, also purchased). Mobile or stationary. AM or Sideband. Tow vehicle with travel trailer (which has separate station; Lincoln II+).

One man, or with a family, where CB is seen as primary comms (but not exclusive) be it on foot or with several vehicles/stations.

My pickup can be set for extended high idle as power plant (Cummins engine) for uses other than radio when remote camping. So, whether with a mobile antenna or something on a tripod or in trees, the George II ought to fill the CB expectations.

I’d like to think President quality will be worth the extra coin over the long-term.

https://simonthewizard.files.wordpress.com/2023/07/georgeii4languesfrenesplv1.02advanceduserguide-385.pdf

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I would anticipate President will neuter this radio if they sell it in the U.S.
President Electronics seems to bend over backwards to accommodate the FCC, so I would think they will rip out components from the EU George II, as they did from the EU McKinley, in order to sell it in the states.

I hope I am wrong, but President could have just sold the EU McKinley here when FM was approved by the FCC, but instead, they ripped components from the EU version, in order to make it impossible to alter the operation of the radio and please the FCC. Yet, my Chinese Radioddity CS-47 (AKA Anytone Graces) has an FCC ID, while a simple jumper alters functionality of the radio. I can’t imagine a Chinese company would have a greater influence over the FCC, versus a European company like President.

 

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The layout of controls, and the meters on the display, make me think this has a lot in common with the Anytone 5555.

It does 4W out of the box, so there should be no reason to modify it, for FCC compliance.

 

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Final part of a series

 

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The layout of controls, and the meters on the display, make me think this has a lot in common with the Anytone 5555.

In this video, the reviewer states that the George II is made by the Anytone OEM, at about the 16:00 mark. Also compares the Area II, near the 24:00 mark.

 

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But not a clone, per se. It’s President design-spec. Pics of circuit boards show differences.

 

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Have heard Dave (M0ogy) 2X on AM-19 from the UK. I’d bet it’s on that George II.

First time in SE New Mexico about two weeks ago (might’ve been on 38) and second on Saturday (CST 10:40) in SC Minnesota.

Distinctive voice, true —great mobile ears at this end, true — no doubt in my mind it was him.

(Video series linked above in #4).

 

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The price of the George II in the UK market is pretty steep, coming in around $350 U.S. before shipping, which would add another $50-70 onto the price, to get one from there to here.

Expansion of frequency range and TX power output is an additional charge by the dealers, so a George II would cost over $400 U.S. to get one shipped to the states. By comparison, an Anytone 5555N II is around $260. As noted above, similar board in each radio, and the 5555N II had much higher output power.

With these prices being as high as they are, I wonder if President will offer the George II in the U.S. market, and at what price? As I stated above, I would expect President to require yet another board design in order to be in compliance with FCC regulations, so what would that do to the price? In any case, I am not a buyer at those prices.

 

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McKinley, Lincoln and Randy have each earned accolades in recent years despite being higher-priced than competitors.

Price isn’t the same as value.

The clarity of what I heard out of northern England was startlingly good if indeed it was the George II. 4000+ miles on 11-Meter Skip. (Not boomingly loud; “quiet”; am assuming no amp of note).

I’m not arguing For or Against. Someone who uses Citizen Band less than I (nearly everyone not on the road daily) is understandably less concerned with the last percentages in performance (which is subjectively qualitative over purely quantitative).

— In the video review series m0ogy sums up in the finale (paraphrased) that this is the best radio he’s ever used in this category.

Given that I want it as a mobile quasi-base station (mobile & portable antenna use; first post) I’ll bite the bullet at some point and order one. I don’t expect dollars to track performance in a linear fashion.

I’ve been happy to be a cheerleader for the AT5555-N2 and plan to continue. It is a tremendous value, dollarwise. A lesser radio isn’t worth purchasing, IMO, as far too much performance is given away at the start, otherwise.

— While the Q5 has digested everything thrown at it, one notices that — at the edges — it’s not the final word.

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Stryker SR-955HPC 10 Meter radio with Single Sideband

Check out this Stryker SR955HPC at www.WalcottRadio.com

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Current price on a George II is about the same after currency conversion, but prior to overseas shipping cost. (Supply is still behind demand).

The Q5 is the correct comparison to the 955-HPC as to “$ value” since it’s nearly a clone.

An important point shouldn’t be lost is that Stryker as a brand has absolutely great sounding AM audio. Which will get responses all on its own. Meaning that the reasons for paying that price premium aren’t all on paper.

I can attest that on AM when things get hectic that audio clarity is an unsurpassed advantage in trying to get questions answered.


— In that vein the $400+ AM/SSB radios with NRC offer premium performance for those users finding it desirable.


Value (Comments in m0ogy videos always good).

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US version

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I would anticipate President will neuter this radio if they sell it in the U.S.
President Electronics seems to bend over backwards to accommodate the FCC, so I would think they will rip out components from the EU George II, as they did from the EU McKinley, in order to sell it in the states.

I hope I am wrong, but President could have just sold the EU McKinley here when FM was approved by the FCC, but instead, they ripped components from the EU version, in order to make it impossible to alter the operation of the radio and please the FCC. Yet, my Chinese Radioddity CS-47 (AKA Anytone Graces) has an FCC ID, while a simple jumper alters functionality of the radio. I can’t imagine a Chinese company would have a greater influence over the FCC, versus a European company like President.

I’m going to imagine that importing EU spec is a price increase, and maybe not terrible (versus FCC version on its way).

$340 Euro conversion as of today.

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Priced an import G2 from Great Britain last night. Currency conversion plus shipping brought to $495.

Hopefully FCC-version not altered significantly.

Supply still short of demand.

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Yes, I am seeing those prices as well. Too much for me at this time.

I have a President Grant II that I bought back in 2014 from Yeticom, and I think I paid around $265 for the radio, shipped from New Zealand. Adjusting for inflation, that would be about $350 in the fall of 2023. That would be my max on the George II imported from the overseas today.

I like the layout of the George II/Grant II/ 980SSB radios and would really like a George II, but it doesn’t look like it is in the cards for me. I will live with my Grant II & WMR CLRspkr dsp external speaker, that makes the RX more tolerable. What I have in the Grant II and the CLRspkr would buy me a George II today…but that is money that is already spent. Perhaps the price will come down in a year or two ??? Does that ever happen ???

 

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I think once supply meets demand that the price will lower, relatively.

Also, that models by competitors will continue to increase in number.


Toss a Digi-Mic on that Grant (given it’s compatible).


The Lincoln II+ of mine has the same DSP speaker, and will wear the D-Mic.


And this (LIBERTY wireless DECT mike):

Don’t forget the 7’ “city” antenna:

Didn’t really plan all President, but it seems like a good end, now, given a Randy included for maximizing personal vehicle mobile.

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An NRC-equipped Bluetooth mic on the way:

*EXCLUSIVE* The Future Comes Soon! President Remote Mike (NRC) Bluetooth & Remote BT Mike (NRC)

WOW they’ve been busy in the secretive world of Groupe President Electronics. Today we’ve a look at the future thanks to the sales department. Bluetooth microphone and dongle with NRC (Noise Reduct…

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And the hands-free Mini Mic for use with VOX:

ACMI200

Mini Mike Freehand - Microphones - CB - Accessoires - President Electronics

Mini Mike Freehand - Microphones

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President George FCC

 

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$279 worth of good.

Now needs a line-by-line comparison with the EU version.

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