Privacy concerns.

[jason_58201]

I am of the opinion that Radio Reference should remove all frequencies regarding the transportation of school aged children that could be used by people that could harm children. Often first and last names along with pickup and drop off information is relayed using radio. While I have been a long time supporter of scanning and it's associated hobbies, I do feel that information pertaining to schools should be removed from the database.

 

[Cameron314]

Seems pretty far fetched. It's all in the FCC ULS anyway.

 

[natedawg1604]

People who harm children don't need scanners, they're probably gonna get a job WORKING for the school as a bus driver or maintenance person or teacher, and coincidentally will have a "legitimate" radio. If someone has such evil and vile intentions, a scanner will not materially assist them.

 

[MtnBiker2005]

Have your local school district get a court order, or file a lawsuit, or speak with the RR’s President..

From the RR Wiki:

Data Removal
Valid and confirmed data of any kind shall never be removed from the database. RadioReference.com does not honor requests to remove information unless required by court order. Exceptions to this policy will only be granted by RR’s President.
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Database_Administrator_Handbook_Live_Version#Policies

Data Removal Policy
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Data_Removal_Policy

Recent Data Removal Details
RadioReference.com removed the MRA info in 2009.
Those LTR sites had school bus talkgroups,etc.
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Restricted_Info

 

[buddrousa]

I guess to protect the children we need to hide the schools transport the children in unmarked semi trucks and not tell the location of parks and playgrounds also.

 

[iMONITOR]

I know I sound like an old fart (because i am), but as kid we didn't have school buses where I lived, my dad worked and my mother was ill so I had to walk 1.5 miles to and from school everyday. OMG how did I survive???

 

[doctordialtone]

I know I sound like an old fart (because i am), but as kid we didn't have school buses where I lived, my dad worked and my mother was ill so I had to walk 1.5 miles to and from school everyday. OMG how did I survive???

I'm guessing it was uphill both directions, right? 1

 

[iMONITOR]

I'm guessing it was uphill both directions, right? 1

No, but it was not uncommon to do it in a foot or better of snow and bitter cold! They didn't close the schools back then like they do these days!

 

[doctordialtone]

I never took the bus.

I always walked or rode my bike to school.

 

[trentbob]

I'm guessing it was uphill both directions, right? 1

That's terrible doc, funny though.

No, but it was not uncommon to do it in a foot or better of snow and bitter cold! They didn't close the schools back then like they do these days!

I was wondering why you didn't mention the snow? All in good fun, I also walked to school or rode my bike and we rarely closed school for snow and they never had to announce a 2-hour delay, it just happened naturally.

Original poster, I agree this is far-fetched. A child predator is more likely to be an Insider, I agree with that and if there's someone who's out to grab a kid they don't need a scanner. School bus stops are everywhere, just need to know when school lets out, also parks everywhere with sometimes unattentive, negligent parents.

 

[iMONITOR]

A child predator is more likely to be an Insider...

Very often the bus drivers are the culprits!

 

[RaleighGuy]

Using the OP concerns, perhaps we should ban department store and mall frequencies, and any large entertainment parks and events, since they all discuss lost/missing children, oh and maybe add parks and rec since they hang out in parks.

That said, I can't remember any reports of scanner usage by people in the act of harming a child. People are often trying to solve problems that don't exist.

 

[timthompson]

I see your point... My area the schools rarely talk unless the bus has trouble or trouble with a student on the bus. Never heard any names or address.

 

[iMONITOR]

I see your point... My area the schools rarely talk unless the bus has trouble or trouble with a student on the bus. Never heard any names or address.

Sounds like the schools in your area have established proper policies regarding the use of their radios and trained their drivers not to disclose personal/private information over the radio! This would be a great solution to the OP's concern rather than removing frequency information from RR's database. Some stay at home parents might want to monitor their child's school bus for ETA's, accidents and other incidents that might concern them.

 

[mmckenna]

As stated above, all the information is easily accessible on the FCC public databases. Removing it from this site won't fix anything.

Often first and last names along with pickup and drop off information is relayed using radio.

This is a training issue. The people using these radios are not "radio people", so they have no clue. I'm willing to bet my next paycheck that 99.999% of them could not explain the difference between the two way radio in the bus and a CB radio, cell phone, or even a wired telephone. All they know is you pick up this thing attached to the squiggly cord and push the button on the side. Through a mix of voodoo, 5G cancer causing radiation and evil lizard people, the noise comes out the far end and Bubba back at the bus barn answers you.

Schools have been doing the exact same thing with FRS radios for years. They pass student names, health issues, and all kinds of information that should not be shared with the general public over FRS channels. Through a lack of knowledge and assumptions they think that it's 100% private and no one can hear them.

Radio users at schools need more than 35 seconds of training on how to use the radio.

Anything where personal info like that sent via radio needs to either be stopped, encrypted (yeah, go ahead, flame the hell out of me…), or the schools need to switch to LTE based communications.

 

[spacellamaman]

I am of the opinion that Radio Reference should remove all frequencies regarding the transportation of school aged children that could be used by people that could harm children. Often first and last names along with pickup and drop off information is relayed using radio. While I have been a long time supporter of scanning and it's associated hobbies, I do feel that information pertaining to schools should be removed from the database.

howsa bout telling the school to just yell like in the good ole days?

ted bundy did just fine and he never listened to the radio.

he didn't care what their first or last names were.

 

[nsrailfan6130]

So lets get rid of Public Transportation frequencies (Transit Busses, Taxi, and the like) while we are at it! Certain companies will put addresses OTA to pick up kids from school or home, or a bus stop. <sarcasm intended>

I am of the opinion that Radio Reference should remove all frequencies regarding the transportation of school aged children that could be used by people that could harm children. Often first and last names along with pickup and drop off information is relayed using radio. While I have been a long time supporter of scanning and it's associated hobbies, I do feel that information pertaining to schools should be removed from the database.

 

[chrismol1]

This reminds me of a local father who opposed a walking trail throughout a newly built development community in one of the safest lowest crime rate areas of the county/state because he said that predators would rape his daughter and he wouldn't allow basically what amounted to installation of side walks

 

[wtp]

i found it easier to keep my daughter in sight and let my son roam around...at 13 he was about 250 pounds.
i have never heard of fat kids being kidnapped.

 

[KevinC]

And with that I think this has run its course.