PRO-2096,96,2055,97 Volume-Squelch Knob `fix'

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As most here know the concentric knobs that the PRO-2096 / 2055 / 97 have for their Squelch & Volume controls can be a PITA to adjust without disturbing the one you don't want to adjust. (The PRO-97 even more so than the others due how they taper.) After putting up with the hassles for probably way too long I decided to try something we had used with Stereo/Hi-Fi equipment to `settle' `loose' controls and make them less likely to be disturbed when adjusting adjacent controls. I dug out my gasket punch set and proceeded to make some small felt washers to mount behind the offending Squelch knobs. (I used felt that I found at one of our local `Craft' stores that was meant for gluing inside or under things like boxes, vases, ETC..)

In the case of the PRO-2096 / 2055 units I quickly found out that, at least with the thickness of felt I'd picked up, one washer wasn't enough and had to go with using two. In the case of the PRO-97, one washer was almost too much. (I am currently thinking of trying cutting some new washers out of the same felt but changing the hole size to see if making the washer a bit looser around the control nut may be what it may take.) Anyway... After using my scanners with the `mod' for several months now, I have not had any problems with either adjustment, Squelch or Volume, `interacting' with the other whenever I make changes. Now when I go and turn off the scanners at my `listening station' when I head for bed I know that I am not going to be having to readjust the Squelch settings on all of them when I turn them back on. (In the bedroom it means that if I, or SWMBO, happens to have to make a Volume adjustment to catch something `interesting' we are not going to have mess around getting the Squelch back into adjustment when resetting the volume afterwards. {GRIN!}) Since I have been playing around with various sizes, I cannot give an actual `set' size washer to either look for or make just right this moment. I will try to post that a little later after I have settled on, or found an `available', size that seems to be `best'. (Some of the washers I've been using `hang out' a tad bit past the knob, some almost seem to `disappear underneath', and a few seem to be almost part of the knob. The `effect' on the way the knobs `respond' seems to be close among all the sizes though some seem better than others do from time to time. It *may* be that the setup that gives the most `repeatability' may turn out to be a combination of sizes and I feel that it would be better to post a `range' and let each of you decide what work the best for you.)

I *also* have tried making, and `of course' installing, some washers under the individual knobs on the PRO-96. So far, it seems that they help cut down on the FFS {Fat/Fumble Finger Syndrome} effect arising from the closeness of the knobs! I have noted that *I* am less likely to make inadvertent changes in my Squelch settings turning on and off the scanner. Unfortunately, the size needed is very small, comparatively speaking, and delicate. (For every one, I have made that fits and works I have made about 3 - 4 that did not. I haven't found any `store bought' ones that were the `correct' size and trying to cut down ones that were bigger is even harder than cutting them out with my gasket punch.) However... Like the washers for the other scanners it appears that this `mod' works and is cheaper, and easier, than trying to find some other `knobset' that may or may not fit. (IE: While the `knobset' for the PRO-2096 / 2055 will fit the PRO-97 and is slightly easier to use the `indicators' on the knobs do not line up properly with the legend on the case. [I *did* try and make new `indicators' on a set of PRO-2096 / 2055 knobs. While I *was able* to do so the hassles of doing such were *way* too much / many to do so with even the few I would have to have made. While they worked, and look `neat', I decided that the washer `fix' was far easier and I went that way with the rest of the PRO-97s around here. (I put them on my daughter's PRO-97 to help differentiate hers from mine and SWMBO's along with making it a bit easier, comparatively speaking, for her to adjust. {GRIN!})])

Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth. {GRIN!}
 

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um, yeah. you could call kenwood up and order a knob set for a kenwood TH-F6a for a few dollars.

Fits tha 97 like a champ and is much easier to control. Also looks better too.

You can do a search in teh PRO-97 yahoo group for more info. I posted that oh, atleast 9 months ago. :)

have fun with the washers.
 

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Frank613 said:
on the PRO-97 does the knob just pop right off or is more technical than that???
yup it pops right off, just pull them off, I use the kenwood ones to and they are great.
 

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Frank613 said:
on the PRO-97 does the knob just pop right off or is more technical than that???
Basically. You may have to provide a little gentle coaxing. All you need to do is just find about a 2" square piece of felt, a good hole punch, and a sharp pair of scissors and carefully make yourself a small washer to put under the squelch knob. (The hole punch and the scissors are something that most households probably already have and the felt might also be the same.) For a few moments of labour one can easily have a squelch knob that only moves when one wants it to move VS going out and buying a whole new set of knobs. (Even *if* one has to go and buy the felt the cost of the fix shouldn't be more than about a dollar. Heck! Even if one had to buy the hole punch it should be a lot cheaper than paying for a set of knobs and the shipping. [And that is considering that the shipping may only be for a bubble-pak via the snail-mail.])

Just an `olde Fart's' 2¢ worth. {GRIN!}
 

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I have replaced the knobs on my PRO-97 with the Kenwood knobs. However, the knob turning problem is not just with the knobs. I removed both knobs, and while turning the upper (volume) shaft with my finger tips, the lower squelch control still turned a bit, even with no knobs in place. The Kenwood knobs are still an improvement over the factory ones, IMO.
 

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Frank - I got my replacement Kenwood knobs from here:

Order online at:
www.pacparts.com

STOCK #
K29-5150-03 (54 cents)
K29-5159-03 (65 cents)

Note: Despite what it tells you on the web site, they have only been charging $3.00 for Shipping & Handling.

I've also read that you can get them elsewhere too.
 

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Frank,
i've got an extra set of kenwood TH-F6a knobs-1 volume and 1 squelch from a Pro 97 I used to own.If you want them PM me your address and I 'll put them in an envelope and send it in the mail.I bought them at pacparts,can't remember the price but I guess a $1 would cover the postage.
Mark
 

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Pro-97 / 2055 replacement knobs

I ordered the Kenwood replacement knobs for both my Pro-97 and Pro-2055 and switched them out.

What I found was that fully seated, they are virtually the same as the old knobs in terms of the squelch and volume setting interfering with each other. Blech.

I think what I really need to do is to remove the volume knobs. Then take an emery board and shave off a few hundredths of an inch off the their bottoms and contour them a little.
 

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On the Yahoo groups there s a picture of someone using Pro-2055 knobs instead of the original....I just ordered some
 

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W4KRR

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chgomonitor said:
I ordered the Kenwood replacement knobs for both my Pro-97 and Pro-2055 and switched them out.

What I found was that fully seated, they are virtually the same as the old knobs in terms of the squelch and volume setting interfering with each other. Blech.

I think what I really need to do is to remove the volume knobs. Then take an emery board and shave off a few hundredths of an inch off the their bottoms and contour them a little.

I did that. It made no difference. Like I said in my other post above, even with no knobs on the radio, turning the volume shaft will still cause the squelch control to turn at times. The problem seems worse on some samples than others. The problem seems to be with the shafts, not the knobs.
 

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W4KRR said:
I did that. It made no difference. Like I said in my other post above, even with no knobs on the radio, turning the volume shaft will still cause the squelch control to turn at times. The problem seems worse on some samples than others. The problem seems to be with the shafts, not the knobs.
Using the felt `trick' should help as it provides some friction, adjustable by varying the number of washers or thickness of the felt, between the case and the squelch knob. (At least it does help with one of my '97s that seems to have had the problem you are describing. {GRIN!})

As for those who are advocating going out and purchasing some other brand's knobs... My figuring is that a dollar chunk of felt, a cheap hole punch, and pair of scissors, the latter two are something that most people should have laying around especially if they have children, is a *lot* cheaper *especially* if one has more than just *a* radio that could use the `trick'. (In my case I have *11* radios with the concentric knobs and 7 other radios, that while they don't have the concentric knobs still benefited, I've done this to. Personally, I think that the co$t savings are well worthwhile. Plus... If one later acquires some other radio that could benefit from said `trick' one should still have enough felt left over, considering that unless one scrounges up *just enough* felt in the first place the usual size piece of felt is around 8½" X 11" @ about $1, to do plenty of other radios. [Heck! Even if one does this for a bunch of friends there should be plenty left for `future' radios. {VB GRIN!}}])

Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth. {GRIN!}
 
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