Problem with my Pro-106

[voxiso]

I Am missing the first 2-6 seconds of each transmission.. what can i do to fix this?

Also now comparing it with my old old scanner setting next to me this Pro-106 is picking up maybe 20% of my local PD and FD the while my old one is at 100%

 

[RIG]

did you try loading it all in one list? I use ARC500 and put it in one place and all systems work well. My reason is I don't know how to separate it all. But it works....

Rob

 

[voxiso]

Now i am starting to see that some freqs it is picking up fine and others nothing while my older scanner is talking away...

 

[CoolCat]

Sounds like the scanner is delaying the squelch break while it tries to determine what type of transmission it is receiving. Try setting the modulation and and code/tone for the channels you are experiencing delays (if you program the extra information into the channel, then the scanner doesn't have to figure it out each time).

Hope this helps, good luck.

 

[voxiso]

Sounds like the scanner is delaying the squelch break while it tries to determine what type of transmission it is receiving. Try setting the modulation and and code/tone for the channels you are experiencing delays (if you program the extra information into the channel, then the scanner doesn't have to figure it out each time).

Hope this helps, good luck.

scan list 1 I have analog 153-155-*** freqs on scan list 2 and 3 i have P25 453-460.*** Now i got my P25 channels coming in fine now my problem is with scan list 1 they show them as scanning but will not receive nothing

Also can you tell me where those settings are you talked about using PSREdit

 

[nc28478]

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Wx priority. ?

 

[OsloViking1975]

I Am missing the first 2-6 seconds of each transmission.. what can i do to fix this?

Also now comparing it with my old old scanner setting next to me this Pro-106 is picking up maybe 20% of my local PD and FD the while my old one is at 100%

As NC28478 mentioned.

Do you have the weather priority off ? 9 out of 10 times that is usually what it is.

If not follow these steps

1.)Press PGM
2.)Press F3/GLOB
3.)Press the down arrow key to WxPri:
4.)Press the right arrow key until it says off
5.)Press the F1/Save key
6.)Press the Scan key and see if still does it or not.
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[voxiso]

As NC28478 mentioned.

Do you have the weather priority off ? 9 out of 10 times that is usually what it is.

If not follow these steps

1.)Press PGM
2.)Press F3/GLOB
3.)Press the down arrow key to WxPri:
4.)Press the right arrow key until it says off
5.)Press the F1/Save key
6.)Press the Scan key and see if still does it or not.
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Seemed to help some.. Got one more question i asked it in another tho.. But i am using the stock antenna now and if i move it 1 foot one way and 1 foot the other makes 100% difference in me picking up the P25 traffic.. Would the 20$ 800Mhz RS antenna fix that you think? or would the 45$ ST2 be alot better seeing how it comes with coax and all it is better for my budget.. Also how much does a monitor or PC effect it.. I got a 48" plasma monitor on my PC... Could that effect my signal ?

 

[OsloViking1975]

Seemed to help some.. Got one more question i asked it in another tho.. But i am using the stock antenna now and if i move it 1 foot one way and 1 foot the other makes 100% difference in me picking up the P25 traffic.. Would the 20$ 800Mhz RS antenna fix that you think? or would the 45$ ST2 be alot better seeing how it comes with coax and all it is better for my budget.. Also how much does a monitor or PC effect it.. I got a 48" plasma monitor on my PC... Could that effect my signal ?

Yes that can effect it because of the electronic interference from the monitor and depending how close your scanner is next to your monitor.

ST2 would be great that would pull in a stronger signal and possibly get things that are of a further distance and hear them better

RS 800MHz works good too. It works good on the 400MHz and 800MHz.

I don't kow if your order online or buying from a local store. But here is a list of some sites you can check out for the ST2

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ST2+antenna&cid=16293388061305145599&os=sellers#

 

[rcnurd]

106

I bought a Pro 106 about a 2 months ago, and am not real impressed with it. I have a Pro 2004 with a dis-cone antenna on the roof with LMR 400 coax. The 2004 picks up great.... I sit the 106 on the desk with the programming cable plugged in and get a lot of noise. It's next to the computer. I hook up the dis-cone and lose most all my signals. I turn on the attenuator and get some of the stations back, but not all. I guess the dis-cone over loads the front end so bad. The rubber duckie antenna actually picks up better than the dis-cone on the 106. I sit the 106 across the room from the computer with the rubber antenna and get more stations. I live just south of St Louis and we are still conventional down here, digital in the city. I'm guessing if you hook yours to an outside antenna, it might not be much better. This is just my observation with mine, you may have better luck.

 

[ST-Bob]

The Pro-106 is a bit overly sensitive in the air and VHF-Hi bands IMHO. You may be having a desensitization problem caused by a strong signal in your area such as a nearby FM radio station or VHF pager frequency in the 152 or 158 MHz range. Do you hear the paging channel when it stops on other frequencies? If so, a tuned notch filter may solve your problems.

 

[voxiso]

Wll I use it for a audio feed so it has to be near my PC even a outdoor antenna if the scanner itself is necx to a computer/monitor it can still screw it up?

 

[ST-Bob]

You could always extend the audio cable between the scanner and PC if it would get you away from the noise of the monitor. You do have all the covers and screws on your PC's case, don't you? And this monitor - is it a CRT or an LCD monitor? My LCD makes virtually no difference when the scanner is on the desk right next to it.

Some fixed attenuators between the antenna system and scanner can help with the overload problem but I suspect you really need a notch filter or two. Does signal-stalker or service-search find any really strong stuff near you? I used an adjustable notch filter from Scanner-Master to tame my pager bleedover problem. Maybe something like that would help you.

 

[ronhl]

desensitization problem

The Pro-106 is a bit overly sensitive in the air and VHF-Hi bands IMHO. You may be having a desensitization problem caused by a strong signal in your area such as a nearby FM radio station or VHF pager frequency in the 152 or 158 MHz range. Do you hear the paging channel when it stops on other frequencies? If so, a tuned notch filter may solve your problems.

Couldnt agree more, allot of threads on this topic regarding overload issues on the pro-106 and pro-197 and people think they have a defective radio when they don't !
On my base setup with an outside antenna up high... I have to use both PAR 152/158mhz pager notch filters AND a FM trap all in series before my multicoupler and this has fixed the problem. The Airband and Vhf Hi band now work just fine. I found that i would need to use these in the car too if i have an external antenna mounted.
Now, the 800mhz cell tower overloading/desense problem is a similar issue in which I hope goes away once rebanding is completed.
If one lives in a high rf environment like most cities then they will have this problem. And found this the case with the pro-96/2096 and the Unidens 996/396 too.

 

[rcnurd]

106

I've listened to scanners for years, since about 1977 and never had an overload problem. I spent the day scanning for pagers and found a lot of data beeps and buzz in the 152 Mhz range. This was done on the 106 and with the attenuator on, they still hit 5 bars and locked the scanner up. Now I'm looking at a notch filter but not sure which one. I've never used one before and don't want to filter out the freqs I listen to. All the freqs I listen to are in the 154 to 157 range. I'd appreciate a point in the right direction. Thanks

 

[ST-Bob]

Figure out which one or two frequencies are stepping on your scanner's front end and order the appropriate narrow-band notch filter(s) to place between the antenna and scanner. The good notch filters are so narrow that they won't affect anything except the frequencies they're tuned to and maybe 1/2 MHz on either side. I recommend PAR Electronics. http://www.parelectronics.com/scanner.php

Depending on what frequency is the strongest (probably 152 MHz) you would start with that one. I, personally, bought a Watson tunable notch filter to cure my problem which affected all my scanners, not just the Pro-106. Although not as narrow a notch as the PAR filter, it does work if you get it tuned correctly.

 

[voxiso]

Well see this is my problem... On my old Pro-136 I heard this on my local PD freq and i quot "unit 15 central i'll be 10-15 one time one male in rout to the DC" My Pro-106 this is what came across "time one male in rout to the DC"

 

[voxiso]

not trying to bug people but this in my first digital scanner and i am NEW to all this

 

[ST-Bob]

First thing is to set up the proper CTCSS or DPL codes and modes. Leaving the mode set to "search" can cause problems. Also there are issues with setting delay times per-channel and some expert mode settings. I have never had any of the problems you're mentioning with either my Pro-164 or Pro-106. You've obviously got something very wrong in your programming IMHO.

These are conventional frequencies with analog modulation, right?

You have priorities turned off, right?

You haven't screwed with the expert settings have you?

 

[voxiso]

First thing is to set up the proper CTCSS or DPL codes and modes. Leaving the mode set to "search" can cause problems. Also there are issues with setting delay times per-channel and some expert mode settings. I have never had any of the problems you're mentioning with either my Pro-164 or Pro-106. You've obviously got something very wrong in your programming IMHO.

These are conventional frequencies with analog modulation, right?

You have priorities turned off, right?

You haven't screwed with the expert settings have you?

Not done nothing in the expert settings just loaded the freqs with PSREdit using the RR database

Scanlist 1 I have these programed Hopkins County, Kentucky (KY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference just the PDs and FDs

scanlist 2 i have these programed Kentucky State Police Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference Post 2 and Post 16

Missing the first few seconds at the start of every transmission on scanlist 1 and scanlist 2 50% sounds like a robot

I went out today and got the 800Mhz antenna from RS and it had ZERO effect