Programing trunking in older uniden bc245xlt

[buckbull]

how exactly do you program a trunk NJSP to be exact Troop B North. I thought I was programming it right but it does not pick up anything and if it doed its very staticy but when I do a limit search it comes in crystal clear so i know im doing it wrong any help would be great thank you

 

[troymail]

how exactly do you program a trunk NJSP to be exact Troop B North. I thought I was programming it right but it does not pick up anything and if it doed its very staticy but when I do a limit search it comes in crystal clear so i know im doing it wrong any help would be great thank you

If this is what you are trying to program:

North Simulcast (Troop B) Site Details (New Jersey State Police)

I don't think it will work given it has been rebanded:

BC245XLT - The RadioReference Wiki

You can probably listen to the frequencies as conventional but the radio can't track rebanded trunked systems.

 

[buckbull]

If they rebranded then why do i get them crystal clear when i do a limit search ?

 

[wtp]

because

search is conventional. you are not tracking them. set up all the freqs in a conventional system. minus the data channel. no talkgroups and you can't follow anything but you can hear them.

 

[buckbull]

Oh so with branding ill hear the but not crystal clear ?

 

[buckbull]

ill try it one more time to program it see what happens. when i hold the trunk button it asks what kind of system i am programming the NJSP so it asks me if the system is

E1
E2-800
E2-900
E2-hi
E2-uhf
ED


What would i pick for the NJSP ?

 

[wtp]

maybe

try E2-800.
if the system that you want is in the other post your radio might work. there are no splinter channels in the list. that is like 853.8750 a 0 in the 4th decimal place. they all end in a 5 as in 851.5625. that would mean they are not re-banded.
i have a pro-97 that does fine until my system go to 851.125 or 851.175 and a couple of others but does fine with 851.2125. works fine on 9 of 15 but on 6 of them i am out of luck.

 

[buckbull]

ok when it comes to programming the frequencies in do they have to be put in in some kind of order , im still not sure how the whole thing works. the whistler ws1080 made me dumb when it comes to programming with the ez scan software click box next to talkgroup upload to scanner its a no brainer lol

 

[slicerwizard]

ill try it one more time to program it see what happens. when i hold the trunk button it asks what kind of system i am programming the NJSP so it asks me if the system is

E1
E2-800
E2-900
E2-hi
E2-uhf
ED


What would i pick for the NJSP ?

You need to pick 800 rebanded, which isn't on the list, because your scanner doesn't know how to trunk track rebanded systems. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen. Same as you and I may know the alphabet, but we won't be writing French love poems.

 

[DickH]

You need to pick 800 rebanded, which isn't on the list, because your scanner doesn't know how to trunk track rebanded systems. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen. Same as you and I may know the alphabet, but we won't be writing French love poems.

That system has NO rebanded freqs, as wtp said. Click the link and look at the freqs.

 

[ka3jjz]

I had a 245 for a long time...

If we look at the db entry for the North simulcast site...

New Jersey State Police Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies

You would see that all the freqs have a '5' in the 4th decimal - the 245 can handle these without issue.

Yes E2-800 is the right choice. There is no LCN type order to a Moto system per se - HOWEVER, the older scanners often benefited from having the red / blue channels (control channels) programmed first; this enabled them to acquire the system somewhat quicker.

Keep in mind that the 245 can't handle anything talkgroup that is digital (D in the mode column) or encrypted (E in the mode column - no scanner can handle the encryption).

As for the signal strength - well, it's all about the antenna and how far away you are from the transmit sites, among many other factors. If you're more than a couple of miles away, on a little duckie, it's going to be quite noisy. A better antenna - in the clear of obstructions - will increase your chances of success

buckbull where are you in NJ? You may be better off using one of the IntelliRepeater (IR) sites if you are physically closer to one of them...

Mike

 

[ka3jjz]

This may also help - there are a few things in this article that are not in the manual...

The BC245 Trunking FAQ - The RadioReference Wiki

Mike

 

[rcool101]

But he said it comes in crystal clear on search. Which we know is not going to track.

 

[rcool101]

That system has NO rebanded freqs, as wtp said. Click the link and look at the freqs.

I clicked the link and it said rebanded
North Simulcast (Troop B) Site Details (New Jersey State Police)

 

[rcool101]

If this is what you are trying to program:

North Simulcast (Troop B) Site Details (New Jersey State Police)

I don't think it will work given it has been rebanded:

What he said.:roll:

 

[troymail]

In general, certain scanners are/were expected not to work. However, as Mike said, it's possible some will work following rebanding under limited conditions/situations. Looking more closely at this:

Rebanding - The RadioReference Wiki

and the frequencies assigned to that system site, assuming the wiki article is correct, it may actually work.

As was stated, program in ALL 12 of the site frequencies as E2-800.

Good luck.

 

[DickH]

I clicked the link and it said rebanded
North Simulcast (Troop B) Site Details (New Jersey State Police)

Part of rebanding is to subtract 15MHz from any 866, 867 or 868 freq. If the resulting freqs. have a zero in the 4th decimal place (like 852.7250) they will not work without special programming.
However, ALL the freqs. in question have a 5 in the 4th decimal place and they will work without special programming (like 852.7375).