Quick Keys...Again

[greggk]

I don't know what it is with me and quick keys; I've looked over new manuals, old manuals, internet info, etc. No help.

I thought this was a software question, but I think it applies to most Uniden Scanners.

Lets say my 436/536/996t, whatever, has 2 systems assigned to it. Lets say System 1 and System 2. Under System 1 I have 1 group with 10 channels, and I assign ALL of them, Quick Key 1. Then under System 2, I have 2 groups there, and I give them quick key 1 and 2.

Now, the question. Lets say I have both systems scanning, and I want to turn off quick key 1 in System 2. Does that also turn off quick key 1 in system 1?

This entire thing has driven all my systems and planning; that is, all my group/channel quick keys have the same quick key as the system it is assigned to. There are some systems I would like to break up into different quick keys...but the question above remains.

Any help appreciated. Greg

 

[jonwienke]

If you assign the same quick key to multiple systems, turning off the quick key shuts off all the systems with that quick key.

But quick keys are hierarchical. If the system quick key is 1 ,and the department is quick key 2, you type in 1.2 enter to toggle the department. If the department is quick key 1, then you type in 1.1 enter to toggle the department.

In your example, if you want to toggle department 1 in system 2, you type in 2.1 enter, not just 1 enter. Toggling department 1 in system 1 is 1.1 enter. You distinguish which department 1 you want to toggle by the number above it 1.1 enter, 2.1 enter, etc.

 

[hiegtx]

If you assign the same quick key to multiple systems, turning off the quick key shuts off all the systems with that quick key.

But quick keys are hierarchical. If the system quick key is 1 ,and the department is quick key 2, you type in 1.2 enter to toggle the department. If the department is quick key 1, then you type in 1.1 enter to toggle the department.

In your example, if you want to toggle department 1 in system 2, you type in 2.1 enter, not just 1 enter. Toggling department 1 in system 1 is 1.1 enter. You distinguish which department 1 you want to toggle by the number above it 1.1 enter, 2.1 enter, etc.

Jon,
There's a ringer in the question.

While that would work on the 436/536HP series, the 996T would be different in the manner that the Group quick keys are handled.

For the x36HP series (436HP & 536HP), see Uniden BCDx36HP Quick Keys and Number Tags - The RadioReference Wiki

If you have more than one favorites list, each with their own, unique quick key (favorites list quick keys can only be assigned to one list, so no duplicates are permissible), then you would actually have thre possible sets of numbers to enter:
FLQK/SYQK/DSQK
FLQK = Favorites List Quick Key
SYQK = System Quick Key
DSQK = Department (or Site) Quick Key

So 1.04.01 would toggle System 4, Department 1, in Favorites list 1. If you only had one list, and that is what is being scanned, then you would not have to enter it's quick key (FLQK)

I don't know what it is with me and quick keys; I've looked over new manuals, old manuals, internet info, etc. No help.

I thought this was a software question, but I think it applies to most Uniden Scanners.

Lets say my 436/536/996t, whatever, has 2 systems assigned to it. Lets say System 1 and System 2. Under System 1 I have 1 group with 10 channels, and I assign ALL of them, Quick Key 1. Then under System 2, I have 2 groups there, and I give them quick key 1 and 2.

Now, the question. Lets say I have both systems scanning, and I want to turn off quick key 1 in System 2. Does that also turn off quick key 1 in system 1?

This entire thing has driven all my systems and planning; that is, all my group/channel quick keys have the same quick key as the system it is assigned to. There are some systems I would like to break up into different quick keys...but the question above remains.

Any help appreciated. Greg

This is regarding the third scanner in your OP, the 996T:

If you have the same system quick key (SQK) assigned to both System 1 and System 2, then toggling SQK 1 on or off will affect both systems.

The Group Quick Keys (GQK) are a different matter.
You must be scanning a system before you can toggle that specific system's GQKs on or off. So, if you are scanning System 1, and toggle SQK 1 off, System 2 will be unaffected.
Similarly, if you are scanning System 2, and toggle SQK 1, System 1 will be unaffected. Turning off SQK 2 in System 2 is not going to change System 11 at all, for two reasons. First, since there is no SQK 2 in System 1, there is nothing to be toggled on or off in System 1. In addition, as you are doing the SQK 2 on/off toggle while scanning system 2, then System 1 would not be affected even if it had a SQK 2.

 

[lou9155]

i tried to figure quick keys out too..wasnt happening. with space for 100 favs i just used a separate fav list for what i wanted to hear. i can still hold on different channels and systems..it works for me

 

[wtp]

i don't do quick keys.

with about 150 systems it would get confusing anyway.
so i just lock or unlock who i wan t to hear.
yes, a lot of knob turning.

 

[rwier]

i tried to figure quick keys out too..wasnt happening. with space for 100 favs i just used a separate fav list for what i wanted to hear. i can still hold on different channels and systems..it works for me

By far the best method if your time is limited (lol). I don't have enough years left to master the intricate System, Dept, Channel/TG QK System. I keep my FLs limited to mostly 10 (sometimes up to 20) Channels/TGs. Give each FL its own QK. Print out a remember cheat sheet. Never had to go over 50 with any QK scanner.

 

[ofd8001]

Greggk:

If you post your programming file (export to HPE, zip it and attach to a message) we can look at it and get the best understanding of exactly what you are doing. That way we can give you the best advice.

Also, are these two Systems in one Favorites List or each in their own Favorites List?

Lastly, remember that Favorites List Quick Keys are different animals than System Quick Keys and Department Quick Keys are a third creature. So when you use the term "Quick Keys" without mentioning what kind of Quick Key, it can lead to confusion.

 

[UPMan]

Enabling or disabling a Department Quick Key (DQK) in one system does not affect the status of any DQK of the same number in other systems.

 

[greggk]

I just turned on the computer and was really surprised at all the responses. Thanks Guys! Much appreciated that you all took time to answer.

All my "stuff" is in one favorites list. I better understand why the screen comes up when I punch a system in or out. I have 14 systems, all under one favorites list. When I think about it, it shouldn't be so hard to understand; perhaps I let the whole thing intimidate me??

Anyhow with your help I figured it out. I broke one of my systems down into two departments, assigned it a quick key that was also a system number, and started experimenting. When I turned off the department quick key (X.X) it turned off the department but did not affect the system of the same number. Reversing turned the DQK back on again. I can see that this would be a real handy thing to know if you have tons of systems/departments. I have 14.

Perhaps I will break some systems down.

Thanks again everyone. I could have experimented with this on my, own, but I could not grasp the basics, so experimenting would have proven futile. Have a Great Holiday Weekend. Greg

 

[greggk]

Enabling or disabling a Department Quick Key (DQK) in one system does not affect the status of any DQK of the same number in other systems.

PS: Don't you get annoyed when one guy is a "know it all."?

Just joking Paul!! Thanks again. Greg

 

[drdispatch]

Greg, here's the best explanation I've come across for the 436/536 Quick Key hierarchy; (I can't take credit for this, another forum member came up with it.)

Think of your scanner as a room with several file cabinets. Each file cabinet is a Favorites List. The Favorites List Quick Key (FLQK) is the key that locks/unlocks that file cabinet. That file cabinet has numerous drawers. Each drawer is a System. The System Quick Key (SQK) is the latch that opens/closes that drawer. In the drawer are several file folders. The file folders represent Departments/Sites. The Department Quick Key (DQK) is you pulling out/putting back that file folder. Within the file folder are the sheets of paper which represent the trunking talkgroups or conventional frequencies of the Department or the trunking frequencies used by the Site. (There is no Quick Key for talkgroups or frequencies; those have to be Avoided or Unavoided.)

 

[ofd8001]

Yet another way of remembering this "stuff" is thinking of it as an outline:

FLQK 1: Your Favorites List

SQK1: System 1
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DQK 1: Department 1 (for System 1)
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DQK 2: Department 2 (for System 1)
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DQK 3: Site 1 (for System 1)
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DQK 4: Site 2 (for System 1)
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SQK2: System 2
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DQK 1: Department 1 (for System 2)
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DQK 2: Department 2 (for System 2)
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DQK 3: Site 1 (for System 2)
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DQK 4: Site 2 (for System 2)
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SQK3: System 3
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DQK 1: Department 1 (for System 3)
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DQK 2: Department 2 (for System 3)
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DQK 3: Site 1 (for System 3)
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DQK 4: Site 2 (for System 3)

​

While DQKs 1-4 are repeated, they are in different systems and thus are different Department Quick Keys. Kind of like a house with a number of 1234 on Main Street is a completely different house than 1234 Apple Street.