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What's going to happen to the 3 palmetto 800 sites in Richmond county as well as all the Richmond county talkgroups
 

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Are you looking for speculation or actual facts?
Speculation is that they would be shut off and removed from service. Why would the tax payers pay for them to be kept online?
For actual facts I would call Pal 8 and ask them: Palmetto 800 Radio Network 0092320
 

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What's going to happen to the 3 palmetto 800 sites in Richmond county as well as all the Richmond county talkgroups
There are agencies other than Richmond County that use those tower sites. North Augusta DPS and Aiken SO to name a few.
 

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Im not that good at looking over FCC licenses but I believe I have come across a current license for the McBean Site that is for the new county system. The FCC website has a pending applications and has 6 sites for a 6 site simulcast. Like I said this could be a new license for their new system or the current McBean site is actually a Richmond County Simulcast site instead of a standalone site like it is currently listed as. If the McBean site is actually a simulcast site with 6 sites the Augusta and Blythe sites must be for additional capacity and coverage. Looking over the License again it appears they converted the McBean site into a Richmond County Simulcast site with 6 subsites.


*Since system is both SC and GA with post in both states*
 

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It is the supposedly the "new" system that Richmond County will be going to. It has no affiliation with the present Palmetto 800 system they are now using. It has been transmitting ever since November but only recently has there been activity on it. It is presently transmitting a Phase 2, with encrypted talkgroups. So far I have found 4 being used. But of course since it is encrypted no way of knowing who is using the new system. It is probably not RCSO since they are still using Palmetto 800. I have not submitted the information for the new system yet, since it has only recently begun being used. I did catch a few talkgroups on the day it was presented to the public with a BIG news media coverage and the talkgroups I found were not encrypted and were not even close to the numbers I am receiving now.
 

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Regarding FCC licenses, it appears that Augusta-Richmond County is licensed for frequencies now used by existing Palmetto 800 sites in Augusta, McBean and Blythe. Because those licenses belong to Augusta-Richmond County (they are a consolidated city/county govt entity), they can be used for whatever system they choose, within the limits of the license. Therefore, it would seem logical to me that, rather than establish new licenses for the new system they would endeavor to make use their existing licenses currently used by Palmetto 800.

A simulcast system seems likely for the same reasons that simulcast is popular in so many other urban locations across the country - it minimizes the number of frequencies required to be licensed and allows wide area coverage. It's possible that the FCC would let them amend their existing licenses and allow them to transition from one system with separate sites to a new simulcast system.

A transition from an older system is typically a gradual process, with individual groups of radios (ie, a department or two) switching over in a staged fashion. They'll likely peel frequencies off of the existing Palmetto 800 sites as more and more radio traffic is moved to the new system.

A P25 Phase II system allows 2 talk paths per frequency. This means they double the number of available radio channels for every existing frequency they have now. So, there are many potential options they can choose from in how they design the new system reusing what they have.

There's no guarantee this is what will happen, and I have no knowledge of this specific situation - meaning this post is mostly speculation.
 
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