Saskatchewan Fleetnet Talkgroups
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Where are you seeing these talkgroup lists I have some information for rcmp tgs on saskfleetnet in one of my v files
system 1
1601 rcmp
1043 rcmp
1539 weyburn police
1289 rcmp
system 2
1434 rcmp
1043 rcmp
1419 rcmp
system 3
1043 rcmp
1439 rcmp
system 4
1043 rcmp
1410 rcmp
system 5
1281 rcmp
1631 rcmp
system 6
1671 rcmp
This is all i have right now. Where are you getting your freq. info. I am missing many of the freqs in the 7 site system and would love to get them with a lcn to go along with
system 1
1601 rcmp
1043 rcmp
1539 weyburn police
1289 rcmp
system 2
1434 rcmp
1043 rcmp
1419 rcmp
system 3
1043 rcmp
1439 rcmp
system 4
1043 rcmp
1410 rcmp
system 5
1281 rcmp
1631 rcmp
system 6
1671 rcmp
This is all i have right now. Where are you getting your freq. info. I am missing many of the freqs in the 7 site system and would love to get them with a lcn to go along with
lawman
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Thanks peteman......this is the most in-depth listing I could find.....
http://users.accesscomm.ca/scanner/fleetnet.html
Hope this helps you....
http://users.accesscomm.ca/scanner/fleetnet.html
Hope this helps you....
Yeah that is the site i was originally working from. I am in sk frequently for work usually Saskatoon or up and down the yellowhead so i listen, all i am interested is police. I don t know how to go about getting those missing channels I imagine if there was a means then the builder of that site would have them there, I did call SaskTel but they werent able to help me. The techs at a couple of radio shops seemed quite offended that i was inquiring about something like that so no help there. do you have any ideas. I wonder if you were to stand beside on of the towers with a frequency counter if that would work. then of course even if it did you would still have to figure out the proper order There are a couple of members in SK maybe one of them might have the channels or some ideas about getting them.
richster
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Well don't fret all. I constantly listen to that system The talk groups listed on the Saskatchewan Scanner Page is 90% correct, go with that. After the long weekend, I'll make a listing on this thread on what is what.
Regards,
Richster.
Regards,
Richster.
lawman
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I see in the database section sombody submitted some talkgroups for us. Sure is good to see something new! Noticed lots of RCMP talkgroups. Maybe it is just me, but the RCMP is pretty silent right now on the Fleetnet system. Has anybody heard anything from them lately??
richster
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OK, here is the jist on SaskTel Fleetnet. For starters Peteman if you are looking for the frequencies and LCNs' for system 7, you find them on http://users.accesscomm.ca/scanner/fleetnet.html. Down on the bottom of that page is a link for the talkgroups, but again it is around 80% accurate.
There are tons of users on this system ranging from SaskPower to truckers. I-calls are used A LOT on this system, and if you cannot track I-calls you are missing a bunch of good stuff. I'm not sure why, but SaskPower uses I-calls the most, they rarely talk on their group IDs unless they are talking to Central Control. These guys are mostly boring. There are users that are more interesting such as TG 829. These guys are some sort of detective agency. Unfortunately I have not heard them in quite some time, but the last time I listened to them they were following some guy in Moose Jaw. They started watching him before the break of dawn, and followed him everywhere tracking his every move, even into a movie theater. I heard them say; "This better be a good movie!" before they went in. I think they track people who are suspected of insurance fruad, like disability claimants and such. TG 1189 is interesting. This is a fast food delivery company, that has branched off and started delivering booze, and people. These guys are very crude, I constantly hear; "#*&@ this" and "$%! that" when things are not going right. They have also figured out what their "privacy" button is for (I-calls), and recently phone patches. Things get immensely intesting when they use I-calls. SaskTel must have told these guys that no one can listen to them while they are in privacy mode, so things get even dicier when they use I-calls. The booze and people delivery aspect of this company is highly illegal here, and because of that they refer to booze and people as parcels. When they use I-calls they are much more open, and they have figured out that their phone patches come up unknown name and number on call displays, so sometimes their phone calls are pretty "freakish" as well. There are many more examples of "interesting" I-call traffic to numerous to mention.
The RCMP are abandoning Fleetnet. I guess they were going to "hook-up" every detachment in Saskatchewan on Fleetnet, but have taken off detachments in the past year and have put up a tender for a major company to build them their own system. This is still up for tender. Sasktel Fleetnet is being "mothballed" in 2 years as well, it will probably be replaced with a more advanced provice digital system. There are a few RCMP, a couple for Fire Departments, and a ton of Medcom (ambulance) talkgroups.
I will list the RCMP, Medcom, and Fire Departments that I know of.
RCMP
1286 - Regina (Pilot Butte repeater)
1304 - Amulet
1345 - Stony Rapids
1350 - Southend (up by La Ronge)
2037 - RCMP Patch
That's it for the RCMP I'm afraid. The rest that are listed in the Saskatchewan Sanner Page have been discontinued. T4win has only recoreded a hit on these RCMP talkgroups in the past 8 months. When you hear one of these TGs activate, you will hear what sounds like a repeater being opened. Well that's true. Primarily RCMP communications are still in the old VHF band, and the above locations are "simulcasted" to Fleetnet. For example 1286 Regina is on 155.700 Mhz. I'm not sure what frequencies the other users are on but they will have their own VHF repeater. If you need to listen to RCMP for the rest of the province, your best bet is to scan between 153 and 157 Mhz. in the VHF band.
Fire and Medcom
1829 - Prince Albert Fire
1661 - Saskatoon EMS (havent heard these guys in few months)
1762 - Medcom unknown
1955 - Medcom Imperial
1818 - Medcom Redvers
1730 - Medcom Cabri
790 - Medcom Yorkton (used a lot)
798 - Medcom Canora
1124 - Medcom Balcarres + Ft. Quappel area
1167 - Medcom Melfort
1601 - Medcom Weyburn + Moose Mountain area
1808 - Medcom unknown
There are a ton more Medcom talkgoups on fleetnet, but I have only listed the ones that have keyed up in the past 4 months. The rest are on the Saskatchewan Scanner Page, and will be listed in BOLD letters.
Talkgroups 1043 and 701 sound like RCMP, but are not. These are conservation officers.
Well that's about it.
Regards.
Richster.
There are tons of users on this system ranging from SaskPower to truckers. I-calls are used A LOT on this system, and if you cannot track I-calls you are missing a bunch of good stuff. I'm not sure why, but SaskPower uses I-calls the most, they rarely talk on their group IDs unless they are talking to Central Control. These guys are mostly boring. There are users that are more interesting such as TG 829. These guys are some sort of detective agency. Unfortunately I have not heard them in quite some time, but the last time I listened to them they were following some guy in Moose Jaw. They started watching him before the break of dawn, and followed him everywhere tracking his every move, even into a movie theater. I heard them say; "This better be a good movie!" before they went in. I think they track people who are suspected of insurance fruad, like disability claimants and such. TG 1189 is interesting. This is a fast food delivery company, that has branched off and started delivering booze, and people. These guys are very crude, I constantly hear; "#*&@ this" and "$%! that" when things are not going right. They have also figured out what their "privacy" button is for (I-calls), and recently phone patches. Things get immensely intesting when they use I-calls. SaskTel must have told these guys that no one can listen to them while they are in privacy mode, so things get even dicier when they use I-calls. The booze and people delivery aspect of this company is highly illegal here, and because of that they refer to booze and people as parcels. When they use I-calls they are much more open, and they have figured out that their phone patches come up unknown name and number on call displays, so sometimes their phone calls are pretty "freakish" as well. There are many more examples of "interesting" I-call traffic to numerous to mention.
The RCMP are abandoning Fleetnet. I guess they were going to "hook-up" every detachment in Saskatchewan on Fleetnet, but have taken off detachments in the past year and have put up a tender for a major company to build them their own system. This is still up for tender. Sasktel Fleetnet is being "mothballed" in 2 years as well, it will probably be replaced with a more advanced provice digital system. There are a few RCMP, a couple for Fire Departments, and a ton of Medcom (ambulance) talkgroups.
I will list the RCMP, Medcom, and Fire Departments that I know of.
RCMP
1286 - Regina (Pilot Butte repeater)
1304 - Amulet
1345 - Stony Rapids
1350 - Southend (up by La Ronge)
2037 - RCMP Patch
That's it for the RCMP I'm afraid. The rest that are listed in the Saskatchewan Sanner Page have been discontinued. T4win has only recoreded a hit on these RCMP talkgroups in the past 8 months. When you hear one of these TGs activate, you will hear what sounds like a repeater being opened. Well that's true. Primarily RCMP communications are still in the old VHF band, and the above locations are "simulcasted" to Fleetnet. For example 1286 Regina is on 155.700 Mhz. I'm not sure what frequencies the other users are on but they will have their own VHF repeater. If you need to listen to RCMP for the rest of the province, your best bet is to scan between 153 and 157 Mhz. in the VHF band.
Fire and Medcom
1829 - Prince Albert Fire
1661 - Saskatoon EMS (havent heard these guys in few months)
1762 - Medcom unknown
1955 - Medcom Imperial
1818 - Medcom Redvers
1730 - Medcom Cabri
790 - Medcom Yorkton (used a lot)
798 - Medcom Canora
1124 - Medcom Balcarres + Ft. Quappel area
1167 - Medcom Melfort
1601 - Medcom Weyburn + Moose Mountain area
1808 - Medcom unknown
There are a ton more Medcom talkgoups on fleetnet, but I have only listed the ones that have keyed up in the past 4 months. The rest are on the Saskatchewan Scanner Page, and will be listed in BOLD letters.
Talkgroups 1043 and 701 sound like RCMP, but are not. These are conservation officers.
Well that's about it.
Regards.
Richster.
richster
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Oh ya I forgot, Peteman you made refence to "missing LCN's". Well they're not missing. Believe it or not they are not used. I use system 1 so I don't have to worry about the mysterious space between LCN's, but this is how to program them in.
For example in system 7 where you see 6 blank spaces between LCN's, where you see blank spaces just program it with "0 mhz" or leave it blank. I did this with system 2 for the Moosjaw area and it seemed to work great.
Regards,
Richster.
For example in system 7 where you see 6 blank spaces between LCN's, where you see blank spaces just program it with "0 mhz" or leave it blank. I did this with system 2 for the Moosjaw area and it seemed to work great.
Regards,
Richster.
RBerezowski
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Very good report Richster!
I have to add a couple of items to your report.
The other RCMP talkgroups you mentioned as being abandoned are not abandoned. Most, if not all of them, should still be in use. The RCMP talkgroups are used to link their VHF repeaters to their Regina Comm Centre. However, the talkgroups don't always come up on the Regina Fleetnet site. They will always come up on the Fleetnet site closest to the RCMP VHF repeater site, and only occasionally on the Regina site.
The talkgroup lists are primarily based on monitoring from Regina, so there are a lot of talkgroups that we haven't even heard in Regina.
Speaking of talkgroups popping up on the Regina site, some of the Fire and EMS talkgroups are like that. Prince Albert Fire, Swift Current Fire, and Saskatoon EMS are good examples. There must be a console somewhere here in Regina that is programmed for these talkgroups, because they are heard often on the Regina site, but not always. There can be months that pass by without hearing them, and then you'll hear them continuously for a few weeks.
And lastly, yes it is sad but true. SaskTel Mobility has plans to turn down the Fleetnet system in 2006. Unfortunately, for public safety users no alternative system is yet available. Hopefully something will materialize by that time. The PS users (including almost every EMS service in Saskatchewan, and a lot of the volunteer and paid Fire Departmetns) are already starting to complain about losing their communications system. Of course, as mentioned the RCMP are solving that problem with their plans to install their own digital trunked system.
Rob
I have to add a couple of items to your report.
The other RCMP talkgroups you mentioned as being abandoned are not abandoned. Most, if not all of them, should still be in use. The RCMP talkgroups are used to link their VHF repeaters to their Regina Comm Centre. However, the talkgroups don't always come up on the Regina Fleetnet site. They will always come up on the Fleetnet site closest to the RCMP VHF repeater site, and only occasionally on the Regina site.
The talkgroup lists are primarily based on monitoring from Regina, so there are a lot of talkgroups that we haven't even heard in Regina.
Speaking of talkgroups popping up on the Regina site, some of the Fire and EMS talkgroups are like that. Prince Albert Fire, Swift Current Fire, and Saskatoon EMS are good examples. There must be a console somewhere here in Regina that is programmed for these talkgroups, because they are heard often on the Regina site, but not always. There can be months that pass by without hearing them, and then you'll hear them continuously for a few weeks.
And lastly, yes it is sad but true. SaskTel Mobility has plans to turn down the Fleetnet system in 2006. Unfortunately, for public safety users no alternative system is yet available. Hopefully something will materialize by that time. The PS users (including almost every EMS service in Saskatchewan, and a lot of the volunteer and paid Fire Departmetns) are already starting to complain about losing their communications system. Of course, as mentioned the RCMP are solving that problem with their plans to install their own digital trunked system.
Rob
I have also heard a lot of potty mouth on sasktel fleet. What are I-calls.are they some type of private communication or something. and since my pro 96 can t support them, will i be required to once again to try to figurte out how to program a uniden product. also on that site the builder or however you refer to them states that he or she does nt have all the frequencies or maybe i missunderstood.
and speaking of THE JAW has anyone had any success with the trunked system that is listed in the data base, when i tried with my uniden before i sold it all i was getting was cc noise on all freqs. so any info there. also I do have some of the repeater channels for SK does anyone if they are the same as AB and NB.
RBerezowski
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Yes, there are a wide range of users on the Fleetnet. Everything from truckers and construction crews to public safety. And of course with that you get a fair number of foul-mouthed people.
I-Calls are Individual calls, where a user on the trunked system can have a private conversation with another radio. Basically, it is a voice call between two radios. Some models of trunktracker scanners can follow I-Calls. You'll also see phone interconnect calls on the Fleetnet showing up as an I-Call.
I-Calls are Individual calls, where a user on the trunked system can have a private conversation with another radio. Basically, it is a voice call between two radios. Some models of trunktracker scanners can follow I-Calls. You'll also see phone interconnect calls on the Fleetnet showing up as an I-Call.
peteman said:
RBerezowski
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The Moose Jaw PD have a Motorola ASTRO system, which would sound like a control channel on an analog scanner. If you had a digital scanner, you would then discover that the Moose Jaw PD system is also fully encrypted. Therefore, no one with a scanner is going to be monitoring that system.
By the way, the Regina PD are also using fully encrypted ASTRO for all communications.
Not sure what repeater frequencies you are referring to. RCMP?
Rob
By the way, the Regina PD are also using fully encrypted ASTRO for all communications.
Not sure what repeater frequencies you are referring to. RCMP?
Rob
peteman said:
Rob,
When did the Regina City Police go to a digital system? It must have been fairly recently. Kind of too bad it is encrypted as well. Guess there is no reason for me to upgrade my 245xlt yet since I can't use a digital one anywhere in Saskatchewan.
When did the Regina City Police go to a digital system? It must have been fairly recently. Kind of too bad it is encrypted as well. Guess there is no reason for me to upgrade my 245xlt yet since I can't use a digital one anywhere in Saskatchewan.
richster
Member
Yup the RPS went encrypted digital a year ago.
An excellent upgrade to the 245xlt will be the BC246T for our area. This scanner will be available by November.
The price for this scanner in the states is around $230-$250, so it should retail around $350 here (give or take 50 bucks).
This scanner has some pretty neat new features such as Close Call, and alpha tagging just for starters.
This link will give you all the info you need to know on this scanner. http://www.grove-ent.com/bc246t.html
Regards,
Richster.
An excellent upgrade to the 245xlt will be the BC246T for our area. This scanner will be available by November.
The price for this scanner in the states is around $230-$250, so it should retail around $350 here (give or take 50 bucks).
This scanner has some pretty neat new features such as Close Call, and alpha tagging just for starters.
This link will give you all the info you need to know on this scanner. http://www.grove-ent.com/bc246t.html
Regards,
Richster.
richster
Member
ve5wil said:
That was Terry's site and unfortunately it was been gone for quite awhile now.
This week I was wondering just what was left on fleetnet. Ever since 2002 I had been tracking Fleetnet with Etrunker and it had recorded over 560 groups, but that has changed quite a bit over the years. So on Monday I started a new! So far looking at it last night Etrunker has recorded 130 groups this week. 95% of these groups are various Provincial Gov't agencies and EMS departments.
This weekend when I get a chance to really go through the data, I'll have a better picture of who's on. One quirk I noticed is that last week I was picking up PA Police on TG 1825, and PA Fire on TG 1829 hasn't been heard since 2005. Now PA Police is gone and PA Fire has started coming in this week. Don't ask me why Sasktel does this switch-a-roo stuff, but *shrug* it's not my system.
Regards,
Richster.
If someone with a fleetnet radio with those talkgroups programmed in it is locked on to your local tower, it enables you to listen to all the radios in that specific talkgroup. During a winter storm when the snow plows are out, it seems like they put their radios on scan to listen to the other operators in the next district, hence I am able to get road reports from across southern sask.
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