Scanner Detector OPP

[warrior420]

I had started a thread earlier as to whether it is possible, but now i believe the OPP are equipped with a detector for the RF leakage. I had one get behind me near the highway headed to a important call but he stayed behind me. 2 minutes later while coordinating with the other units he made the "out of the blue remark" that he just got a bite on the 150 antenna. Not sure the point since its legal to have a scanner here?

 

[exkalibur]

That detector is a radar detector-detector, most likely. I'm not sure what the "150 antenna" remark was all about however. A radar detector-detector looks for local oscillator activity from the radar detector unit. In the case of the VG type detector-detectors, it's looking around 11.5GHz - much higher than what a scanner is going to put out.

To add to that, using a scanner in Ontario is perfectly legal so I can't imagine why the OPP would even care.

 

[jgardhouse]

Not to mention, if you where scanning OPP in leau of radar detector, you'd likely be scanning in the low 410's.

OPP uses VG2 and VG3 radar-detector-detectors - prettymuch impossible to beat (last time I did in depth research on the matter, there was only one modified product that cut the mustard.)

 

[hemi]

It possable for bikers and stuff, but i just can't see them even bothering. They know people can hear them thats why the good stuff is 10-30 for air or give me a 10-21. Often times now its 10-4 me. Crime units are pretty much all encripted now so i do think its possable, but unlikely.

 

[MetalCarnage]

Not to mention, if you where scanning OPP in leau of radar detector, you'd likely be scanning in the low 410's.

OPP uses VG2 and VG3 radar-detector-detectors - prettymuch impossible to beat (last time I did in depth research on the matter, there was only one modified product that cut the mustard.)

I have seen one or two radar products which claim to beat both these systems...whether thats BS i dont know, but they claim too, lol

 

[BushDoctor]

"Bite on 150 antenna"

The reference to a bite on the 150 antenna seems to me to be a reference to the LO-Jack system which is on the 4 150s rooftop antennas up at the 173MHz area. joe

 

[MetalCarnage]

I had started a thread earlier as to whether it is possible, but now i believe the OPP are equipped with a detector for the RF leakage. I had one get behind me near the highway headed to a important call but he stayed behind me. 2 minutes later while coordinating with the other units he made the "out of the blue remark" that he just got a bite on the 150 antenna. Not sure the point since its legal to have a scanner here?

I doubt he was tracking a scanner, i have three antennas on my car, have driven by many OPP and even behind or beside one or two for a long period of time, they have looked at me, obviously aware of what the antennas are for, but if they were really out to get scanner users they would have pulled me over, not just drove by. And my BC796D is completely out in the open and can be seen easily from outside the car...

 

[hemi]

lo -jack

lo-jack system?

 

[jellotor]

I believe Lo Jack is an antitheft or vehicle locator system.

 

[mikewazowski]

First of all, the OPP dropped the VG2 for the Spectre. Currently the Spectre is up to version 3. Only one detector currently out there is undetectable by the Spectre although it's rumoured that Version 4 will beat that one. Time will tell.

The OPP do not run Lojack and they definitely do not have a scanner detector. Since scanners are legal, what would be the point. Sounds like somebody is getting paranoid.

It's possible they suspect criminals in the area are using radios and the reference was to a specific receiver and antenna that this one cruiser has.

It wouldn't be the first time that the OPP were monitoring criminals using radios.

 

[warrior420]

Well they have been busting ALOT of cigarette loads lately, mabye they are looking for people using them for that reason?

 

[jgardhouse]

First of all, the OPP dropped the VG2 for the Spectre. Currently the Spectre is up to version 3. Only one detector currently out there is undetectable by the Spectre although it's rumoured that Version 4 will beat that one. Time will tell.

I have seen a VG2 in service as recent as the past 6 weeks, however the spectre is most common - just to verify Mikes info.

Anyways, radar for highway is less usefull then people think! And whatever you buy, will be detectable in six months (its been this cat and mouse game for ever, it seems.)

 

[Chrome69]

The Unit that will beat the VG2 and Spectre is not worth it, Its $600usd currently.. Suppose to be virtually leak proof and has been shown tested against VG2 and could not be detected, but to me a bit too much to spend for my driving habits... My luck i would pass a unmarked OPP car with no Radar on board or at least not active , then where am I? Its a Toy not worth having....

 

[warrior420]

Who knows? The only real criminal that would benefit from a scanner is a break n enter type. So i cant see the point of detecting a mobile hobbyist?

 

[Nighthawk101]

Who knows? The only real criminal that would benefit from a scanner is a break n enter type. So i cant see the point of detecting a mobile hobbyist?

Racers --- They are using scanners now. I know a few street racers using 996's in there vehicles. The racers themselves don't have them usually, it is the race scouts.

In the news, they have mentioned that anyone being caught with a scanner while at a street race will be charged. That is interfearing in a police investigation. They are watching who listens (in my opinion).

 

[jellotor]

Again, the police may 'keep an eye on who listens' but the cops will also be able to clearly differentiate between most of the people who frequent this board and the street racing types.

I can understand the interest in the technical aspects of a 'scanner detector' but the bottom line is that in Ontario having a scanner in your vehicle is legal.

 

[mikewazowski]

VG2 - gone for the OPP. They were recently sold off on Ebay. Most detectors are VG2 invisible anyways so it didn't do much good.

The Bel STi is available for $600 Cdn. You just have to know where to find them since detector sales are illegal in most provinces. The STi came out about 18 months ago and is still not detectable. That's a lot longer then 6 months.

As far as the scanner detector goes, no way. There are too many things out there that would register on such a device. Radar detectors are easy to spot due to the lack of emissions in the microwave bands. I've been told the Spectre does false a lot.

 

[exkalibur]

The whole idea of a radar detector is quite pathetic in the first place. It's simple. Don't speed and you've got nothing to worry about. Also, just because an officer doesn't have radar doesn't mean he/she can't nail you for speeding.

Streetracers do have scanners. This is also one of the reasons you hear a fair amount of encrypted traffic on those new digital talkgroups in Toronto...

 

[Chrome69]

The whole idea of a radar detector is quite pathetic in the first place. It's simple. Don't speed and you've got nothing to worry about. Also, just because an officer doesn't have radar doesn't mean he/she can't nail you for speeding.

Streetracers do have scanners. This is also one of the reasons you hear a fair amount of encrypted traffic on those new digital talkgroups in Toronto...

I agree with this 100%, I have been stopped by both peel and OPP(ride programs) and they have seen my uniden scanners and Motorola radios and have said little to nothing to me about them.. One female OPP officer, asked me if anything interesting was on that night but out side of that... They usually blow you off....

 

[hemi]

street racers are big ito scanners. i seen a special on date line or 20/20...one of those news/documentery shows anyways and all the scouts for the nights races had scanners and as soon as the cops got call for something that required a few bodies, the scouts called on frs or cellphone that the coast was clear for action. CFTO did a story a while back on street racing and a joint police task force Opp/peel/metro to combat street racing. Then even talked about encripted radio's so the racers could'nt moniter them. its just cat and mouse game.