Scanner Laws in Ontario?

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sm3000

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Here's how I look at it. If they sell em in a store in a display cabinet where everyone can see, it ain't illegal...otherwise they wouldn't do it.

But yea. Do a search on the site. It's been discussed a thousand and one times at least :)
 

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here are the only two sites you need. they are both federal( i.e. criminal code, privacy act, IC's legislation) and provincial. you can search key words. btw if you ever look on the back of a digital scanner (mainly Uniden) it says "a radio licence must be obtained prior to usage or possesion of this device" that is NOT in legislation that is only from a circular that IC put out many moons ago that has no affect on you. why did they put it on there then? you ask. well companies out side of Canada are sometimes ignorant to our laws (americans) and they probably seen that circular or spoke with IC and were advised to put that on there.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/index.html

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/navigation?file=home&lang=en
 

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I honestly doubt ignorance has anything to do with it. In fact, it's probably just the opposite; Uniden probably wanted to make sure its bases were covered should a digital scanner license become a requirement in Canada.

A good rule of thumb (other than the old 'rebroadcast' caveat) is that in Ontario there are no legal restrictions for owning a scanner. However, there are legal restrictions for what you can do with said scanner and almost none of them have anything to do with the scanner itself.

In other words, your conduct with or without a scanner is the overall arbiter of your freedom from prosecution.
 
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A good rule of thumb (other than the old 'rebroadcast' caveat) is that in Ontario there are no legal restrictions for owning a scanner. However, there are legal restrictions for what you can do with said scanner and almost none of them have anything to do with the scanner itself.

But the thing is criminals using scanners for crime is not going to care if thel laws say you can have it or not.Now thats say you took away MDT's,cell phones and encryption and I would say scanners would be illegal.If the cops had to use the radios 100% of the time than scanners would be illegal or the 800 Mhz band block out.But the thing is most cops are using the MDT and cell phone more and more and the D units using encryption .

There is no way you can pick up encryption because of the hashing algorithm where a letter is substituted with other letter where word (next) becomes (PGUV) the kay would know its Shifted by 2X.

Or you could use number for a word like the word (next) using a 2 bit number you got 4 different combinations but you not going to use 2 bit number .

Just don't drive with alot of scaners or go to calls or you in for trouble with the cops !! Scanners are too much frown on by the cops and more so the DI and staff sergeants.Who has little empathy with news media,scanner buffs or emergency service buffs and fighting over other police departments on protocols when they are involved or calls at the border.
 

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Nec, thanks for reiterating my point while at the same point disagreeing with it.

Obviously criminals who are intent on using scanners in the commission of their crimes aren't going to be particularly concerned with radio laws...or other laws, for that matter. That's why they're criminals.

I'm going to assume (since I have no reason to doubt) fuzzyscanner's credentials as a law-abiding citizen and also assume then that his question has more to do with avoiding a needless run-in with the police during his day-to-day activities more than ducking the cops after committing a break-in.

You don't need to tell me how much 'empathy' the police have or don't have for people with scanners...and any new users need only search the Eastern Canada forum to find out what history has taught us about 'discrete is elite.'

Of course, you and I agree on that, don't we Nec?
 

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nec208 said:
But the thing is criminals using scanners for crime is not going to care if thel laws say you can have it or not.Now thats say you took away MDT's,cell phones and encryption and I would say scanners would be illegal.If the cops had to use the radios 100% of the time than scanners would be illegal or the 800 Mhz band block out.But the thing is most cops are using the MDT and cell phone more and more and the D units using encryption .

There is no way you can pick up encryption because of the hashing algorithm where a letter is substituted with other letter where word (next) becomes (PGUV) the kay would know its Shifted by 2X.

Or you could use number for a word like the word (next) using a 2 bit number you got 4 different combinations but you not going to use 2 bit number .

Just don't drive with alot of scaners or go to calls or you in for trouble with the cops !! Scanners are too much frown on by the cops and more so the DI and staff sergeants.Who has little empathy with news media,scanner buffs or emergency service buffs and fighting over other police departments on protocols when they are involved or calls at the border.

I see yet another illuminating post from nec208. Might I suggest that you write your posts in word first, then do a spelling and grammar check, before posting. It might make your posts some what inteligible. This isn't meant to pick on your spelling as everyone makes typos now and again, it's just that very few (if any) of your posts make any sense what so ever.
 
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rhutch said:
I see yet another illuminating post from nec208. Might I suggest that you write your posts in word first, then do a spelling and grammar check, before posting. It might make your posts some what inteligible. This isn't meant to pick on your spelling as everyone makes typos now and again, it's just that very few (if any) of your posts make any sense what so ever.


I did not think you will understand hashing algorithm,hashing ,kay ,encryption so on.I tried to explain it ,may be not the right words so here is a better job just quote it.

hashing
comput apply algorithm to character string: to apply an algorithm to a character string,

algorithm
a logical step-by-step procedure for solving a mathematical problem in a finite number of steps, often involving repetition of the same basic operation

Key
cryptographic feature: in cryptography, the sequence of symbols or characters that defines the makeup of an encoding mechanism

cryptography
study of encoding: the study or analysis of codes and coding methods
 

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I'm just a lowly editor, befuddled by eight daily hours of moving images and soundwaves, but I fail to see what algorithms and hashing and other technical details relating to encryption have to do with the OP's question.
 
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