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So I have a XTS5000 and am still learning the Motorola system and when I go into service mode I see the following.

SECURE VER
SECURE ADP

I haven't been able to find something about this online, any ideas?
 

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So after reading this I am still having a little trouble understanding if it needs a key or not, do I need to do anything to make my radio use ADP?
You do need an encryption key which has to match up to other radios you wish to be able to talk to encrypted.

With the XTS 5000 there are 2 main ways of loading ADP encryption keys:
1) Software based. This means you simply set up the ADP Key in CPS (Under Radio Configuration->Secure) and write the encryption Key to the radio.
2) Hardware based. This means you need to have a hardware encryption board (called a UCM or Universal Crypto Module) with ADP activated within it along with a KVL (Key Variable Loader either 3000 or 4000 with appropriate connector). In this scenario you set the encryption key to Hardware in CPS so it looks to the UCM and use the KVL to load the appropriate Key into the UCM and the radio.
Encryption is not for the beginner or the faint of heart as everything has to be configured perfectly for it to work.
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You do need an encryption key which has to match up to other radios you wish to be able to talk to encrypted.

With the XTS 5000 there are 2 main ways of loading ADP encryption keys:
1) Software based. This means you simply set up the ADP Key in CPS (Under Radio Configuration->Secure) and write the encryption Key to the radio.
2) Hardware based. This means you need to have a hardware encryption board (called a UCM or Universal Crypto Module) with ADP activated within it along with a KVL (Key Variable Loader either 3000 or 4000 with appropriate connector). In this scenario you set the encryption key to Hardware in CPS so it looks to the UCM and use the KVL to load the appropriate Key into the UCM and the radio.
Encryption is not for the beginner or the faint of heart as everything has to be configured perfectly for it to work.
Marshall KE4ZNR
I do have the CPS (vr 20) where do I find encryption keys? Or is it preloaded into CPS?
 

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I do have the CPS (vr 20) where do I find encryption keys? Or is it preloaded into CPS?
You don't "find" encryption keys. Encryption would be kind of useless if you could just open up CPS and see encryption keys. You either know what they are (because you are an authorized user) and load the appropriate key or you are out of luck.
And the most recent (and probably last) version of XTS/XTL CPS is R20.01.00.
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You don't "find" encryption keys. Encryption would be kind of useless if you could just open up CPS and see encryption keys. You either know what they are (because you are an authorized user) and load the appropriate key or you are out of luck.
And the most recent (and probably last) version of XTS/XTL CPS is R20.01.00.
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So if I want to set up 2 XTS5000 radios to communicate using ADP I'd be out of luck because there is no way to copy encryption keys?
 

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I would recommend doing more research on encryption and overall radio programming before heading too much further down this path. Encryption is an advanced programming topic that has to be done 100% correctly or else you could cause inference to others. Search online and read the CPS help menus. A lot of info is out there with a little effort.


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I would recommend doing more research on encryption and overall radio programming before heading too much further down this path. Encryption is an advanced programming topic that has to be done 100% correctly or else you could cause inference to others. Search online and read the CPS help menus. A lot of info is out there with a little effort.


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I can't seam to find any info on encrypting radios that would be able to tell me these such things. Every time I ask a programming question the answer is figure it out you self. So thanks for the no help.
 
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Many places (including most shops) won't give the unauthorized user that information. Call MOL support and they can help you, assuming you have a LEGAL software license.

Assumption for the use of ADP encryption:

Not in the ham bands.
Not in FRS.
Your FCC license must including P25 emissions, and you must be licensed in a service that allows encryption.

IF you don't have the licensed software and frequencies, put the radios back in the box.
 
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So if I want to set up 2 XTS5000 radios to communicate using ADP I'd be out of luck because there is no way to copy encryption keys?
Since you own both radios, you set both keys the same as each other. You invent the code like any security code you would use to log onto a website. What the other guys were talking about was if you wanted to listen to a system where you did not know what the code was. But since you own both radios, you would think up a code, & program both radios with the same code. The nice thing about ADP, is you don't need a keyloader. You can set it with CPS. While it's not the most secure algo, like AES-256, it works just fine for your personal use. A sample code could be 12345678AB.
 

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You enter the keys under Radio Configuration -> Secure ->Secure Multikey (typically). In that section you need to enter the KeyID (CKR#), a key name (so you know whats what) then the actual key value (under Selectable ADP Key Data).

There are many steps to adding encryption to a channel, as the other guys have mentioned. If you are green at this it can be pretty daunting to sort your way thru it. What is your comfort level with programming the radio?
 
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