indiana1983
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Does anyone know the transmitt frequency for the sheriff department and both the Recieve and transmitt frequecies for the Shebyville city Police.
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indiana1983 said:Does anyone know the transmitt frequency for the sheriff department and both the Recieve and transmitt frequecies for the Shebyville city Police.
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When does Shelby County plan to begin use Indiana Safe-T and abandon VHF radios?
Shelby County _can not_ abandon the VHF system unless/until some manufacturer develops a voice paging system suitable for volunteer fire service use compatible with SAFE-T.
Your tax money has been wast^H^H^H^Hspent on a large number of SAFE-T radios for agencies in the county. Said radios are largely issued/installed already. However, because the system is so needlessly complicated that even Motorola's dealer in the area can not figure out the radio programming, they presently function only as parasitic loads on vehicle electrical systems.
Shelby County _can not_ abandon the VHF system unless/until some manufacturer develops a voice paging system suitable for volunteer fire service use compatible with SAFE-T.
Your tax money has been wast^H^H^H^Hspent on a large number of SAFE-T radios for agencies in the county. Said radios are largely issued/installed already. However, because the system is so needlessly complicated that even Motorola's dealer in the area can not figure out the radio programming, they presently function only as parasitic loads on vehicle electrical systems.
It's the wave of the future, get used to it.
But a simple VHF system/frequency for alerting is doable...
but some have gone to alpha paging,
you can do dispatch talk groups on the radio etc.
The only "bad" area is up near Morristown.
And the "system" isn't needlessly complicated, it's actually very simple, you just have to be smarter than a turnip, if the local dealer can't deal with it they shouldn't be in the business.
Programming the radios shouldn't be a problem since the templates are set up for them.
How does that mesh with the testing done that led to the plan to install something like 6 more tower locations in order to achieve minimum acceptable coverage in the county?
I didn't argue that they should be in business. But since they're granted a local monopoly by Motorola, they're all we have...
The templates (at least for Shelby County) were set up by people who do not understand the system or the radio models targeted, then handed over to a dealer that appears to not understand the system or the radio models targeted, resulting in delivered radios that do not function and have recently been returned for reprogramming.
Didn't upset me... don't really care. either use or don't, but sounds like you don't have a choice or any power in the matter.Worst. Argument. Ever.
Thus, Shelby County couldn't abandon the VHF system.
Great backup system to in-house alerting for career fire departments, delay between sending and receiving page is unacceptable for primary dispatch mechanism.
Most agencies/counties have a dispatch TG, that doesn't magically create the portable equipment appropriate for daily use by volunteer fire departments.
Sorry if I have upset some fanboys. From a technical perspective, SAFE-T is certainly impressive. From a practical standpoint, it's inappropriate for the services it's being forced upon.
Shelby Co is getting ONE new site, Morristown, which will also serve Hancock Co as well, Hancock Co is getting one new site as well, the other 4 are elsewhere, NOT in Shelby Co.
Really, so those who set up the entire statewide system don't know what they are doing?
Funny, I haven't heard of a single issue with the Shelby Co radios, at least not with the Sheriffs Dept. The only complaint I have heard is the dead area by Morristown which will get the new tower.... construction begins in January......
Reference the VHF paging... its not hard at all to set up a simulcast on a dispatch console. Click on the SAFE-T group, and the VHF group... hit the tones... Minitors go off in the county, in house alerts go off...
Shelbyville Fire Station #3 will be getting a site. A tower operated by Hoosier Energy in the Geneva area will be getting a site.
Well, I have no experience with them, I couldn't say one way or the other. I do have experience with the committee of local officials that is working to set up the template for Shelby County. I attended a number of the meetings and discussed the template with a number of the individuals. I can assure you that they do not have a thorough understanding of the system or the radios.
I suspect that a lack of complaints would be more meaningful once the radios are actually distributed to the Sheriff's Department members and the system actually starts being used regularly. Until that happens, there's not much for them to complain about.
Not sure where you are getting your info but they (Shelby Co) is getting ONE SITE in MORRISTOWN, it will be a dual site for Shelby and Hancock Co. the Bartholomew, Rush and Johnson Co sites cover the rest of the county along with the Fairland site. Maybe you should get some new sources, especially since the Sheriff's Dept has been using the SAFET system for 6 months, at least three months full time except up in the Morristown area. Your whinning isn't helping, especially since you have no clue whats going, your claims that you have helped on the template shows your lack of knowledge and whats going on. A rep from the county submits their requirements including number of radios, users and type of users to the IPSC who then submits the information to the radio techs who set up templates, the counties do not set set them up. IF you really had attended meetings etc. then you would actually have a clue, and that info was sent in months ago. Many of the county departments have the 800 radios installed and operable, which if you had a digital scanner you'd have known. In fact about 6 months ago during one incident police and fire units were using SAFET because the VHF system wasn't working during a fire response. The first engine enroute got on the radio and told all units to use 800 because of the VHF issues. The first in Sheriff's unit contacted the responding fire units on 800 and during the entire incident the VHF channels were quiet. It's not the only time they have done that recently though, and not just because the VHF system didn't work.
As for alerting and knoxbox, they can change that over to 800, and at some point it will be changed whether YOU like it or not. For now they will simulcast the alerting on VHF, but I'd say from what I have heard that will be gone in 5 years as they buy new pagers to work with the SAFET system and once all the pagers are changed over the VHF will only be a backup for fire
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Not sure where you are getting your info but they (Shelby Co) is getting ONE SITE in MORRISTOWN
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especially since the Sheriff's Dept has been using the SAFET system for 6 months, at least three months full time except up in the Morristown area.
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A rep from the county submits their requirements including number of radios, users and type of users to the IPSC who then submits the information to the radio techs who set up templates, the counties do not set set them up.
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Many of the county departments have the 800 radios installed and operable, which if you had a digital scanner you'd have known.