Signal Hound Spectrum Analyzer/Receiver

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I took a quick look at these a while back, on paper, but have not actually played with one yet. And, quite likely, I will not bother unless I luck into one cheap. From the manuals description it is not really meant for monitoring, although it has the ability to demodulate multiple modes. It appears to be more meant as a low cost spectrum analyzer. The concept is interesting. Keep in mind I am grabbing this out of the operations manual and have not touched one myself.

In the detailed or narrow resolution bandwidth modes they are using a fairly narrow banded but high resolution DSP (240 kHz) as a detector. The Signal Hound has a mixer at the front end and a programmable signal generator as an LO (possibly two sets actually, double conversion, the manual is unclear but mentions two IFs, 2.9 MHz and 10.7 MHz), converting the desired 240 kHz chunk (or less) of RF down for the DSP to digitize. The Signal Hound people are calling it an “SDR” and the WinRadio G303/313/305/315 does a similar job, but with a narrower banded DSP (WinRadio also calls theirs an SDR but the DSP is only centered around 20’ish kHz). The SoftRock series and the USB66 do this also with about 200 kHz of bandwidth, but where the SoftRock or USB66 require the I/Q data to be transferred to the PC via audio cable this unit does a direct digital conversion.

What that means is that to scan a 1 MHz chunk of RF with high detail the unit actually steps through it, the size of the steps determined by multiple factors. But it appears that for the highest speed sweep it would have to take five 200 kHz steps to cover 1 MHz. Since these are done serially what you see at the begining of the 1 MHz width is not in sync with what you see at the end. If you have ever used a traditional spectrum analyzer you will understand what I mean. The Signal Hound does have a “wideband” mode that appears to be using the DSP to capture 5 MHz of bandwidth at a time. Naturally, when it does this the resolution goes down, the specifications are no longer guaranteed, and you cannot use any form of demodulation.

To demodulate SSB it recommends an IF setting of 30 kHz, and the manual specifically says that the span MUST be 200 kHz or less to demodulate audio (this is significantly less than several SDRs that can be found, and about on par with the SDR-IQ and the SoftRock/USB66 series). It also says that any changes (tuning, bandwidth, frequency, mode, etc) will cause the audio demodulation to stop, the new settings will be applied, and the demodulation can then begin again. If you have ever used a Hewlett Packard / Agilent 85XX series of spec an you will recognize the dance ;)

This unit would probably be very good to augment a traditional superhet receiver or an honest SDR monitoring receiver. Use the Signal Hound to sweep wide bandwidths quickly to find potential “hits”. Use the more traditional receiver to monitor the hit and see what it is. Above 50 MHz I could see this being very useful if searching for new or unknown frequencies. However, if you want to do this at HF or VHF Lo something like the WinRadio Excalibur will do both task simultaneously, and DDC 2 MHz of instantaneous bandwidth and never drop audio while you are adjusting things.

So, this unit might be viewed as a scanner implementation of the SDR concept, getting above the 40/50/60 MHz top end of monitoring SDRs (below that freq area the other SDRs are probably significantly more usable than the Signal Hound). However, as a scanner it will not do trunking, it will not do digital modes like APCO-25, and it will not scan.

One last item...the specifications. They talk about the “display average noise level” and like terms. Be very careful with the terminology in the manual and on the web site. It would be easy to misunderstand it and believe the unit has an MDS of -161 dBm or something along those lines, and a Dynamic Range of 150+ dB. I do not believe anything on the web site or manual is incorrect, but several items are presented in interesting ways.

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Hi Token,

I registered to solicit your advice after your post hit in a search on "Signal Hound." Knowledge and objectivity aren't always easy to find in combination.

I am building a system for generating magnetic fields (100MHz to 4GHz) in a small volume of material. The minimum drive power will be greater than 1 dBm, and the ideal drive signal will be a single frequency sinusoid with constant amplitude. Initial characterization of the driver will entail analysis of distortion and noise over a wide band to verify performance. In real time, the characterization will involve monitoring a narrow band (centered on the preselected operating frequency) for a few minutes.

I am considering buying the Signal Hound for characterizing the drive signal since it is low cost and can be integrated with the other PC based data acquistion components that I am using. In your opinion, what would be the potential drawbacks to the Signal Hound in view of my application, and is there another USB spectrum analyzer that you would suggest as an alternative?

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Signal Hound USB-SA44B Spectrum Analyzer Measuring Receiver

I have been a Ham since 1966 and a professional RF communications engineer for over 35 years. I have used and owned many spectrum analyzers over the years, in fact I own 3 IFR, 2 Motorola, and in my Lab I have a Agilent HP 8569B and an Ailtech/Eaton. I also own a Agilent HP Next Gen PC based spectrum analyzer. Of all these The Signal Hound SA44B comes right up there with the rest of them. I use the units I have for different applications, of those units the NextGen and the Signal Hound are the only two that easily interface with a computer through USB. A couple of the others interface with RS232 and couple of more through GPIB IEEE-488 though those are not software user friendly let alone menu driven or GUI operated. This little GEM is all those and more it lends its self to easy application in almost all uses as it is PC SDR based if it lacks anything it is selectivity certainly not sensitivity. It is excellent for use in EMI RFI or bug detection. It is easy to find inter-modulation mix offenders on any communications site with this unit. I love the SMA connector on the RF input and the 10 MHz input BNC where I can inject my Rubidium or GPS Standard for dead Nutz On accuracy. The unit has a Self Test Mode with a Self Test output port supplied BNC which also doubles as an external Sync if so desired or needed. This is not only a fantastic unit for the money it is straight up just a fantastic unit!!! I cannot wait to get the Tracking Generator that accompanies the unit I am quite sure it will be just as fantastic, and will allow me the ease of use and accuracy of operation as does the Signal Hound. There are similar units on the market but not for the same or even similar cost!
Laurin Cavender Chief RF Engineer Western Electric WB4IVG
 

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I have been using my friends SignalHound for a few weeks .. and am doing a signal sweep of the aircraft band as we speak. It is a pretty cool unit .. and will sweep across the 18 MHz aircraft band (118-137 MHz) in about 1/4 sec.

I am going to run it for a week before I have to give it back. :(

It will also allow you to export the data to a csv file, which is what I am doing.

But really .. it is a piece of test equipment, and not so much for monitoring the bands. Though it is great for finding out what signals are out there.
 

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I use mine along with a Winbook TW700. A little less weight to carry as opposed to my S412E and a bigger screen than my RF Explorer.
 

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The signalhound would be useful for sweeping a room for a hostile transmitter (ie TSCM work) although I never worked with a signalhound so I do not know how good it is for TSCM type work.


But if your looking for a signal, this would probably be your best bet. Then you can use your SDR for in depth monitoring. A Spectrum analyzer though is a good tool to have along with your SDR if you are interested in finding interesting stuff to monitor.
 
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