So a hytera fiasco happened at my house: part 1

[YalekW]

The photo below comes with a story: It starts out with my workplace's maintenance director (a good friend of mine) getting rid of all these old hytera PD362i mini-handhelds in replacement with ICOM NXDN capable radios that are digital.

These hyteras however, until further research have *both* analog and DMR capaiblity, cosidering how awful the condition is for these radios.
Whats even note worthing is that these radios are still under an FCC license, according to the maintenance director, licensed to their workplace surprisingly, and im unsure if he actually got rid of the license to these walkies (I dont know what the callsign is honestly). In total there were about 15+ radios that were given/donated to me from their facility to me to "fool around with". I was going to use it for flat-audio but cant since its complicated insides are not really suited for it... It also shocks me that this is also a HAM band radio as well, spanning from 430-470 MHz total coverage. I was planning on making this a mini-POCSAG repeater that redirects public safety messages that are non-HIPAA...such as breaking news, crime reports, etc...kinda like a mini-RSS feed, with its analog input but the problem is i cant do that because one even if I did, I woild probably get numerous complaints (since for one these things are a mile or 2 radius..) for interference and probably suspicious use unless if I found the morse ID for this license...
Anyways, here they are....

 

[radioopperator]

That license DON'T cover you and your usage!

 

[XVCham]

I know the OP is probably from US but...
At least in Canada, what you described that you are doing is.... Not allowed to put simply....
First, You need authorization from the licensee. Ensure radios are being used to the license's "stated" details (antenna, power output etc). Ensure radios are being used where they are supposed to be (while some licenses allow for wide coverage, most licenses are locked to a single address especially when used in retail setting etc.) Also ensure that you are using the correct mode stated on the license (Analog or Digital) and same emission designator.
Second, Not entirely sure if you are even allowed to forward those types of messages. I would check with someone else on that before doing anything. As for Pocsag, it's typically 9khz (where those hytera's probably operate 12.5 and/or 25), not sure if it will even work with it.

Correct me if I'm wrong for anything I've said above but just make sure you do further research prior to doing anything.

 

[radioopperator]

Typical US Hytera and Motorola are 12.5 20 and 25Kc others do 6.25 but all bets are off on none us configurations. Hytera us radios require the super license to do 25kc since 2012 all commercial us radios are default at 12.5 and require special software to do 20 or 25kc except for Amature radios.

 

[Forts]

I've got one of these in the drawer somewhere... I don't recall them doing analog.

 

[Expat2017]

I've got one of these in the drawer somewhere... I don't recall them doing analog.

Yes they are Analog capable. Might even be able to do a mixed mode channel. Memory is a terrible thing when it starts to.

 

[dazey77]

Yes they are Analog capable. Might even be able to do a mixed mode channel. Memory is a terrible thing when it starts to.

If my memory serves, you would be right either way. They do analog, they do mixed mode but if I remember correctly the mixed mode only arrived after a certain firmware (So would depend on what they are running but they certainly can if upgraded)

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Does Hytera offer much end user support for secondary market?

 

[Expat2017]

In the US market the answer is no. I dojnt know what the phone support is like now, but you will most likely be directed to a dealer for support.
Good luck any may your god have mercy on your soul.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

In the US market the answer is no. I dojnt know what the phone support is like now, but you will most likely be directed to a dealer for support.
Good luck any may your god have mercy on your soul.

Yeah, it is a shame, as they had a pretty good line of products and the quality looked very high. They flew too close to the sun in taking on Motorola in their attempt to overtake the M market and create the HYT Era.

 

[Expat2017]

Yeah, it is a shame, as they had a pretty good line of products and the quality looked very high. They flew too close to the sun in taking on Motorola in their attempt to overtake the M market and create the HYT Era.

Oh no they stole Motorola code. IF they had gotten away with it they probably would have stolen Sepura's design language for the H series instead of buying the company, then selling Sepura later.
Phone support from the Irvine office was not bad up until the Motorola case and the Pandemic.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Oh no they stole Motorola code. IF they had gotten away with it they probably would have stolen Sepura's design language for the H series instead of buying the company, then selling Sepura later.
Phone support from the Irvine office was not bad up until the Motorola case and the Pandemic.

I do recall reading the Hytera IP Site Connect manual and finding wording virtually identical to Motorola's IPSC in the planner. At the time I wondered if it was just standard ETSI wording. But maybe plagiarized.

 

[petnrdx]

Yes, they do both analog and DMR. I own a few, and they are nice little radios.

 

[jaspence]

Not a lot of on the go ability, but good audio and easily connects to the local DMR repeater which is over 5 miles line of sight. Low power is great for use with a hot spot.

 

[Expat2017]

They tend to fall apart quite easily. The silver plastic bits are stuck on the bottom with double sided tape and it is very easy to break the little locking tab inside the audio accessory socket if you attempt to use the wrong audio accessory. Complete case change just to repair it.
Easy to brick and prone to SiComm errors. Built to a cost and should really be sold on Aliexpress, two for $50.00.

 

[speedway_navigator]

I sold one to a guy who works security for a major cruise line, their ships use leaky coax for the repeaters. Not sure how they are licensed here but some of the repeater splits are about 10 MHz but not 10 even.

 

[radioopperator]

Radix, Maid for buildings and ships. As for license (MOST) are not legal to operate within the 12 mile limit of the USA.