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First, I want to thank the WV State Police for arresting a murder and kidnapping suspect from our rural county in west central Ohio today.

While watching local news coverage from Princeton I see State Police cars with long low band whip antennas on them. They are fender mounted on ball mounts and look like they are for very low 30mhz range or maybe cb? I love low band radio and wonder what the antennas are for?

Rick Nelson W8PRR
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Just saw another live shot and the whips may not be as long as I thought, but still seem to be for very low vhf frequency.
 

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i believe West Virginia State Police use 32-42 MHz Band
 

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42.100 is dispatch to the cars 42.260 is car to dispatch in the charleston area. there are a lot of freq in the 42. range that goes with the big whip antenna. Some of the cars that run the wv turnpike do not have the big whip antenna on there car, since the turnpike has their own freq. The cars don't look right without it big antenna.
 

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I still here them on low band from time to time, when they are in rural parts of the county.
 

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First, I want to thank the WV State Police for arresting a murder and kidnapping suspect from our rural county in west central Ohio today.

While watching local news coverage from Princeton I see State Police cars with long low band whip antennas on them. They are fender mounted on ball mounts and look like they are for very low 30mhz range or maybe cb? I love low band radio and wonder what the antennas are for?

Rick Nelson W8PRR
West Liberty Ohio

Hey Rick

The WVSP in most parts of the state is still on lowband but in some parts they use the WVIRP TRS.

Hope this helps

73s

Chad
 

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Here in Berkeley & Jefferson, they use WVIRP, low-band, and VHF high.

WVIRP for most traffic (dispatch and related)

BCI VHF-high for "tac" and CB type stuff; almost like "unofficial" comms

Car-to-Car VHF-high for more "tac" and chit-chat

40MHz low-band when they can't get a signal with WVIRP and/or hit the tower with BCI3 and/or having radio issues

Romney dispatch uses 40MHz a lot.
 

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Wvsp longer whip antenna are for their freqs in the 40mgh range. They also have freqs in vhf and uhf and p25 that are not listed here on the site for some reason. I would like to have all the freqs as well.
 

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While watching local news coverage from Princeton I see State Police cars with long low band whip antennas on them. They are fender mounted on ball mounts and look like they are for very low 30mhz range or maybe cb? I love low band radio and wonder what the antennas are for?Rick Nelson W8PRR
West Liberty Ohio


One antenna is for VHF- low band ( 30-52 mhz), and it may or may not be a " Whip" antenna.

One antenna is for VHF - High band ( 144-174 mhz )

One antenna is for UHF ( 400-512 mhz )

One antenna ( If it is there at all ) , is for the " Rat pack " , where the handheld radio, is re-transmitted
from the cruiser ( about 100 watts ) most generally. Some EMS agencys in WV - State Police - DNR and others can talk from their handheld - - > the signal goes to the vehicle, and is retransmitted from the vehicle...as the vehicle radio transmits much more power ( 35 - 100 watts - depending on radio model ) versus the 4 ( UHF ) or 5 ( VHF - Typically ) watts of the handheld ; letting the individual transmit farther in distance...or with uninterrupted static.

Some State Police supervisors ( Sergeants and above - unmarked cruisers ) do not have full radio capability of all the bands. They may just have a low band capability , or low band and VHF high.

Hope this helped.

FF - Medic !!!
 
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uhf and p25 that are not listed here on the site for some reason. I would like to have all the freqs as well.

The UHF antenna is probably the P25 (P25 is not a band) for the WVIRP. It could be the WVIRP antenna. If you think they have other freqs, you could search the FCC database and look for them. Do you have a picture you can post or a link to a picture with these antennas?

DNR or whatever they are now have some VHF high freqs that are P25.

EDIT: Just thought I would search and I did find the below. I will post what I found.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?cs=WQIQ313
 
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One antenna is for VHF- low band ( 30-52 mhz), and it may or may not be a " Whip" antenna.

One antenna is for VHF - High band ( 144-174 mhz )

One antenna is for UHF ( 400-512 mhz )

One antenna ( If it is there at all ) , is for the " Rat pack " , where the handheld radio, is re-transmitted
from the cruiser ( about 100 watts ) most generally. Some EMS agencys in WV - State Police - DNR and others can talk from their handheld - - > the signal goes to the vehicle, and is retransmitted from the vehicle...as the vehicle radio transmits much more power ( 35 - 100 watts - depending on radio model ) versus the 4 ( UHF ) or 5 ( VHF - Typically ) watts of the handheld ; letting the individual transmit farther in distance...or with uninterrupted static.

Some State Police supervisors ( Sergeants and above - unmarked cruisers ) do not have full radio capability of all the bands. They may just have a low band capability , or low band and VHF high.

Hope this helped.

FF - Medic !!!

I believe this is true here as well.
 

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Hey Guys

Based on what I'm able to hear from here and when times that I travel I've noted the following:

With regards to the WV Turnpike it appears that all the Turnpike units are now solely on the WVIRP. I've tried monitoring their VHF freq of 155.4300 several times and there have been times when I have only been able to hear one side of the transmission only (Either Turnpike Control or the units talking to Control) but not both, even though it is a repeater freq. Also about a week or so ago I noticed that 155. 4300 was only being triggered everytime a unit keyed up but nothing was heard and during that same time they were "loud & clear" on the WVIRP. I will try to listen to 155.4300 a little this week just to confirm.

It appears that the WVSP Elkins Detachment is mostly on lowband but is starting to use the WVIRP system some. I'm still able to hear the local units on 42.3000 and Elkins on 42.0600. Also it appears that there are a couple of UHF Links that relay the mobile traffic to the detachment. One on Sharps Knob and two on Rich Mtn. I believe it's called. Mobile units also have VHF & UHF radios to talk to Pocahontas & Braxton Control as well as Webster Comm. Also I have not heard them use 156.0300 here in a while but that's probably cause they don't use it that much.

It appears that the WVSP S Charleston Detachment is strictly on lowband at this point. I have not ever been able to hear them on the WVIRP for several months and have not gotten a hit from their TG.
Units use 42.2600 and S Charleston uses 42.1000. Also there is a UHF Link on Bee Mtn on 451.1000 that relays mobile traffic. I have heard 156.0300 many times while in the Charleston area so they use it quite a bit. Also the S Charleston Units have a VHF radio to communicate with Metro (Kanawha Co.) and a few of them that work out of the Clay Detachment have a UHF radio to talk to the Nicholas/Clay 911 center.

It appears that the WVSP Beckley Detachment is mostly on the WVIRP but still uses lowband in a few areas, I'm guessing due to coverage. All of the Units operating of Southern WV appears to be using the WVIRP and are being heard a lot on TG 9019. Also the units that are operating out of Nicholas and some of Fayette Co. are still using lowband. There were many UHF links that were being used but due to the WVIRP I'm unsure if most of them are still in use. Also they have VHF & UHF radios to communicate with Nicholas/Clay 911, Fayette Co. 911, & Raleigh Control.

It appears that the WVSP Shinnston Detachment is fully on the WVIRP. Was hearing them a lot on TG 9001 while in Harrison and Marion Co's. yesterday.

It appears that the WVSP Huntington Detachment is still on lowband. They are also using a UHF link on Barkers Ridge in Milton for relaying. Units there also have VHF/UHF capability in order to communicate with Putnam & Cabell Dispatch.

I hope this helps a little and if I notice any changes I'll be sure to pass them along.

73s for now

Chad
 

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Thanks fo the answers.
The antennas just looked to long for 42 MHZ, guess because we see so few low band antennas in Ohio anymore, only ODOT on 47 mhz

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Just to add something from My end, here in Chas., I'm getting WVSP Huntington on TG 9015 loud and clear and Chas. Base is mirrored on 456.100 PL 156.7.and Cars on 451.100 PL 156.7.
 

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Just to add something from My end, here in Chas., I'm getting WVSP Huntington on TG 9015 loud and clear and Chas. Base is mirrored on 456.100 PL 156.7.and Cars on 451.100 PL 156.7.


Yep , DPS still in some locations simulcast some of tehir freqs analog. Turnpike was analog on the .430 freq. have not listened to it in awhile.

Will !!!
 
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