The BIG Pro-43 vs Pro-97 COMPARO

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trixwagen

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That's right. Don't waste your time and hard earned money buying both a Pro-43 and a Pro-97, just to find out which is "better". Leave that to me.

Appearance & Superficial Stuff:

The Pro-43 is all business, all black, in the height of late 80's tech. It's got a nice, solid, almost military spec heft to it (maybe from the 6 AA batteries it requires).

The Pro-97 feels sort of light and flimsy in comparison. The silver accents are nice. The scanners are very similar in size; you'd think scanners would be a lot thinner and sleeker after all these years, something more like an I-pod with a keypad. But Radio Shack and Apple are two very different companies.

The light on the Pro-43 is a minimal firefly whereas the Pro-97 's lighted keypad and brightly lit screen is like the old Disneyland Main Street Electrical Parade.

I like the two side by side knobs on the Pro-43 for squelch and volume better tha the two knobs stacked on top of eachother on the Pro-97. The knobs on the Pro-43 are set up to be adjusted when you are wearing the scanner on a belt rather than looking at the display, which is sort of weird. But then, when you don't have alpha tags, the display is perhaps less important.

Actual Performance:

I programed in the same frequencies on the scanners and the Pro-43 tends to pick up signals up to a second before the Pro-97 knows what's going on. Yes, the legendary Pro-43 sensitivity shows through. Milair was good on both scanners. The jets have been pretty quiet tonight, but further investigation will be required before I can say "the Pro-97 is a fine replacement for the Pro-43 for milair" or "the Pro-97 is deaf compared to the Pro-43's incredible milair capabilities".

The Pro-97 has a better speaker and you can hear the Pro-97 in both ears on headphones. The Pro-43 just plays on the left headphone. Not really a big deal, but it drives me crazy, anyway.

Of course, the Pro-43 can't do trunking or signal stalker II, so there's no comparison there.

Odds and Ends:

If you are one of those people who only wants to have a Pro-43 to illegally mod it and listen to those forbidden cell phone frequencies, make sure your Pro-43 has a date stamp before "4A4". The first digit stands for the month and the last digit stands for the year it was manufactured. "4A4" means "April 1994". You'll find the date stamp inside your battery comparment. And yes, my date stamp reads "4A4". The damned unblockable scanner is keeping me a law abiding, FCC approved citizen. So, anyone who wants to know how well you can hear analog cell phones on a Pro-43... I have no clue.

Final Thoughts (for now)

After messing around with Win97 and Win96, it was refreshing and a little annoying to hand program the Pro-43. Such simplicity. Reminded me when my kid found a old rotary phone. At first he was like, "Wow, I want to dial it! This is cool." 30 seconds later he muttered, "This sucks. My fingers are getting tired and this is taking forever."

I really like the Pro-43, though technological innovations seen in the Pro-97 and the questional value of an unblockable scanner are wearing away at the Pro-43's Clinton-era laurels. While the Pro-43 is nice to have around, the temptation to throw it on E-bay for enough money for a couple tanks of gas is growing as my SUV's fuel gauge wanders over to the E. There's a lot less temptation to sell the Pro-97.

Now if I had the capability to hear all those ancient analog cell phones from the trailer park down the road on the Pro-43....well, let's not talk about that.
 

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I'm sure thats a nice write up and all but what good is it to compare those two radio's considering one is over 10 years old?
 

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Dubbin said:
I'm sure thats a nice write up and all but what good is it to compare those two radio's considering one is over 10 years old?

Totally unfair, but the Pro-43 has always been something of a benchmark for scanners, especially for milair.
 

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And if you want trunking, PL and DPL capability, and alpha tagging, there is no comparison.
 

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Alright, I see how it is.

There is no comparison about features. Duh.

But there still is a contest about performance.

Excuse my indulgences. There are still old timers who say scanners like the Pro-43 and BC780XLT beat most of the newer scanners when it comes to things like sensitivity.

This was just a little race between a '65 Mustang and a Subaru WRX. Yeah, so, the Mustang doesn't have air conditioning. Maybe that isn't important getting to the finish line.
 

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I still have my PRO-43, and I'm not interested in selling it. My "new and improved" PRO-95 is long gone, there was something about it that I couldn't quite put my finger on, but I just didn't like it. I bought my PRO-43 new in late 1992, and it still works as good as it did when it was new.

Mark
 
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My primary air/rail/milair monitor is my PRO-97. However, I still use my PRO-43 for additional milair monitoring and searching where alpha tags are of no real use.

As for the observation about the '43 grabbing transmissions sooner than the '97, don't forget that the PRO-97 has a whole lot more channels to scan through than the PRO-43.

Of course, if the two scanners were parked on the same frequency when this phenomenon occurred, then obviously the above is irrelevant. Can you clarify?
 

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DaveNF2G said:
As for the observation about the '43 grabbing transmissions sooner than the '97, don't forget that the PRO-97 has a whole lot more channels to scan through than the PRO-43.

Of course, if the two scanners were parked on the same frequency when this phenomenon occurred, then obviously the above is irrelevant. Can you clarify?

I found just scanning ONE bank on both scanners, the Pro-43 tended to pick up broadcasts a little quicker. Right, the Pro-97 has 100 channel per bank and the Pro-43 merely has 20 channels per bank. But the Pro-97 scans faster ( 60 channels/sec vs 25 channels/sec).

Whatever. It is a totally "unfair" comparison.

...off to Ebay I go...
 

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The light on the PRO-97 wins hands down :) I got my PRO-43 in 1994 new at the shack, other then a keypad and front case replacement (left it under the seat in the car and the wife slid the seat across the top of it) a few years back, it has worked perfect.
 

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I agree, the PRO-43 performs well, however, the comparison is somewhat meaningless as PRO-43's are very hard to find, if you did decide you wanted one. The ones that are out there have seen their better day, in poor condition, with keypads failing (a common problem). The PRO-43 does not have enough memory to be an effective MilAir scanner, unless you just scan your favorites.

Added to that the features on the PRO-97 that W4KRR pointed out, plus the ability to be programmed by computer!
 

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GreatLakes said:
I agree, the PRO-43 performs well, however, the comparison is somewhat meaningless as PRO-43's are very hard to find, if you did decide you wanted one. The ones that are out there have seen their better day, in poor condition, with keypads failing (a common problem). The PRO-43 does not have enough memory to be an effective MilAir scanner, unless you just scan your favorites.

You mean it's harder to find a Pro-43 than it is to find a Radio Shack that actually sells scanners?

My Pro-43 is in great condition, btw. No problems...other than I can't mod it. And for my milair purposes, 200 channels is adequate.

Though the Pro-97 is still a "better" scanner overall.
 

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The keypad and speaker on my PRO-43 both failed. RS no longer has the parts to fix it. My main interest is in railroad scanning. The PRO-43 seemed especially sensitive in that band.
 

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snjct2000 said:
The keypad and speaker on my PRO-43 both failed. RS no longer has the parts to fix it. My main interest is in railroad scanning. The PRO-43 seemed especially sensitive in that band.

Have you tried cleaning the contact points on the keypad? I have heard of many people doing that with success. A speaker that would work shouldn't be to hard to find.
 

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trixwagen said:
You mean it's harder to find a Pro-43 than it is to find a Radio Shack that actually sells scanners?

LOL, that's a close race....

My 43 has been run over by the power seats in my car more than once.
Other than a few scratches, it's mint, and modded :)

I'm not quite brave enough to mod it for computer programmability, that and there's no clean way to add a data connector...
 

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jambo said:
All I gotta say is, that it's a good write up, and I enjoyed your comparison of the 2 models.

Thanks, jambo.

Like most everything else I do, it is fairly pointless, but generally entertaining. Like a dog chasing its tail for 20 minutes.
 

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I have a pro-39 that still works and a pro-51,96,97,2051 the guys at work cant under stand how come someone needs so Meany scanner and I have more and they want me to sell one to them for just about free they think one is all you need.crazy or what "Me or them"
 

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lowboy654 said:
I have a pro-39 that still works and a pro-51,96,97,2051 the guys at work cant under stand how come someone needs so Meany scanner and I have more and they want me to sell one to them for just about free they think one is all you need.crazy or what "Me or them"


Ummm...well, I've seen some of the shacks you guys have and "too much is never enough"..

Seriously, though, maybe you should let the Pro-39 or Pro-51 go. That Pro-51 squelch tail...boy howdee! Or maybe sell the 51,39 and 2051 and have enough to get a BCT15 or something.
 
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