Toronto police using digital?

[nec208]

What is with Toronto police dispatch.It sounds like the dispatchers are using digital or using digital than broadcasting via analog or running their voice through digital computer.Has the dispatchers voice sound digitized .Yat the units on the street sound analog .Even other fire and EMS dispatchers voice sound digitized but not the units on the street.

If the system is not digital are they using a digital computer or digital than broadcasting via analog or some thing.

I know how the OPP comms are digitized and are digital .


I never liked radios or cell phones that use digital it is too digitized.I hope they fix this problem in the future.And before people say it is my cheap digital scanner that is why it sounds like this look at those TV programs on TV those cops shows in the background the radio comes in digitized or people that call you on a cell phone.The human voice is just not natural.And the single strength is strength 0 or strength 5 no strength 3 or 4.

I think digital is okay for computers ,TV or the internet but the technology is too crude for radios or cell phones.May be in the future they will fix it.


I know the police are hopping on the digital Fad and so easy for encryption.All the small towns and small cties going to digital encryption it is matter of time before the big cities are not digital encryption ( it is mostly cost why they have not gone ).All this digital Fad .

 

[jellotor]

Short answer yes with an if, long answer no with a but.

But seriously, why rant?

 

[JoeyC]

All this digital Fad .

A fad is temporary. There is nothing temporary about the switch to digital.

 

[EJB]

What is with Toronto police dispatch.It sounds like the dispatchers are using digital or using digital than broadcasting via analog or running their voice through digital computer.Has the dispatchers voice sound digitized .Yat the units on the street sound analog .Even other fire and EMS dispatchers voice sound digitized but not the units on the street.

If the system is not digital are they using a digital computer or digital than broadcasting via analog or some thing.

I know how the OPP comms are digitized and are digital .


I never liked radios or cell phones that use digital it is too digitized.I hope they fix this problem in the future.And before people say it is my cheap digital scanner that is why it sounds like this look at those TV programs on TV those cops shows in the background the radio comes in digitized or people that call you on a cell phone.The human voice is just not natural.And the single strength is strength 0 or strength 5 no strength 3 or 4.

I think digital is okay for computers ,TV or the internet but the technology is too crude for radios or cell phones.May be in the future they will fix it.


I know the police are hopping on the digital Fad and so easy for encryption.All the small towns and small cties going to digital encryption it is matter of time before the big cities are not digital encryption ( it is mostly cost why they have not gone ).All this digital Fad .

Well Well Well, Look who's back.

You might have some trouble with the audio because if I remember correctly you are far away from the tower, Your scanner will decode digital better if you have a better signal.

And IIRC your scanner is an older model, you may want to upgrade.

 

[Forts]

Somehow I don't think I would consider the transition to digital as a 'fad', it's simply the next logical step for radio to take. OPP have been digital now for what, 7 or 8 years? London Police have been for around 15 years.... Hardly what I would consider a fad.

And if you look back... ohh, about a month or so, you will find some rather lengthy discussion on TPS dispatchers switching to digital. And as far as the technology being 'too crude' you may want to find someone with a 'real' radio on a P25, ProVoice or even a MotoTRBO system. They sound pretty damn good to me!

 

[nec208]

Somehow I don't think I would consider the transition to digital as a 'fad', it's simply the next logical step for radio to take. OPP have been digital now for what, 7 or 8 years? London Police have been for around 15 years.... Hardly what I would consider a fad.

Media hype that digital is better.If a well design analog system is set up repeaters and tested and tested again it can be dam good.But the easy security encryption is really what gets the police to want to go to digital .

And if you look back... ohh, about a month or so, you will find some rather lengthy discussion on TPS dispatchers switching to digital. And as far as the technology being 'too crude' you may want to find someone with a 'real' radio on a P25, ProVoice or even a MotoTRBO system. They sound pretty damn good to me!

There is a discussion on Toronto going to digital and if there is going to be encryption .But the dispatchers sound digitized some how but not the units on the road.

I never really listen to Toronto now has I moved away and only some times on weekends do I go to see family and take my scanner.

And as far as the technology being 'too crude' you may want to find someone with a 'real' radio on a P25, ProVoice or even a MotoTRBO system. They sound pretty damn good to me!

That may be so with some of the newer technology but I have read some news reports of fire-fighters in the US having radio problems in buildings using digital but the old system worked better.


But anyways that not my problem they can do what they like and if they go ProVoice or MotoTRBO say goodbye to scanners.Well with police using cell phones now and computers in the police cars they hardly use the radio.Well 95% of the follow up or car to car radio traffic is now done on cell phones or computer in the police car.

Police departments use to have those TAC channels or car to car channels they would switch to keep the dispatch channel in the clear than switch back to the dispatch channel after they are done talking.Well now do not use it they use cell phones or computer in the car.

 

[jellotor]

I repeat: why rant?

You say you only occasionally visit Toronto, scanner in hand, to visit family, or something like that.

Next time, leave the scanner at home. Problem solved.

You're a scannerhead hobbyist like the rest of us, so get used to 'things changing' without any 'input' from you on what sounds good or works best. And, in the end, be thankful that when everything goes 100% encrypted you can toss the scanners in the trash and take up basket weaving, unlike some people who actually try to make a living listening to these things.

 

[nec208]

I repeat: why rant?

Why troll ?Or are you too uneducated to reply ? Read my last post it is a reply to a poster who reply to my last post.Can you summarise school work had you have no idea to summarise my last post?


Do you even know what the word rant is.Subject of thread Toronto police using digital? body of text

What is with Toronto police dispatch.It sounds like the dispatchers are using digital or using digital than broadcasting via analog or running their voice through digital computer.Has the dispatchers voice sound digitized .Yat the units on the street sound analog .Even other fire and EMS dispatchers voice sound digitized but not the units on the street.

If the system is not digital are they using a digital computer or digital than broadcasting via analog or some thing.

I know how the OPP comms are digitized and are digital .

the only thing that comes close to rant is I never liked radios or cell phones that use digital it is too digitized.I hope they fix this problem in the future.And before people say it is my cheap digital scanner that is why it sounds like this look at those TV programs on TV those cops shows in the background the radio comes in digitized or people that call you on a cell phone.The human voice is just not natural.And the single strength is strength 0 or strength 5 no strength 3 or 4.

I think digital is okay for computers ,TV or the internet but the technology is too crude for radios or cell phones.May be in the future they will fix it.


I know the police are hopping on the digital Fad and so easy for encryption.All the small towns and small cties going to digital encryption it is matter of time before the big cities are not digital encryption ( it is mostly cost why they have not gone ).All this digital Fad .


No where did I rant on the last post has it was a reply to a poster who was replying to my last post..

You're a scannerhead hobbyist like the rest of us, so get used to 'things changing' without any 'input' from you on what sounds good or works best. And, in the end, be thankful that when everything goes 100% encrypted you can toss the scanners in the trash and take up basket weaving, unlike some people who actually try to make a living listening to these things.

You got one thing right dude police will go to encryption in the future when they get the money .Take you scanner and enjoy well they broadcast in the clear.

But anways the subject of this body of this thread is not to discusses encryption or digital but

What is with Toronto police dispatch.It sounds like the dispatchers are using digital or using digital than broadcasting via analog or running their voice through digital computer.Has the dispatchers voice sound digitized .Yat the units on the street sound analog .Even other fire and EMS dispatchers voice sound digitized but not the units on the street.

If the system is not digital are they using a digital computer or digital than broadcasting via analog or some thing.

I know how the OPP comms are digitized and are digital

If you have nothing of value to add to the discusses my advice is stay out or you are going to make enemies.

 

[VE3RADIO]

wow your special

 

[EJB]

Did not take you long to say something dumb

Well I see not much has changed since they let you either out or in front of a computer.
Why are you back here anyways?
Jellotor knows more about the media, the police and the commincations systems than what you can put 2 gether in a thousand lifetimes.
He has more common sense than a million of you and is a nice guy to boot.

When he posts here it is in an intelligent manor and easy to understand.
When you type here people laugh at you, get pissed at you and each and every time try to figure out what you are trying to say because you posts end up as gibberish.
You constantly complained about your scanner, how hard it is to follow stuff in Peel, how you hate slow drivers, how an incident at 13 Division was missed by the police at the Eglinton West subway station.

P.S Since you are going to post here try this on for size
I strongly urge you to proofread or to learn actual sentence structure.

 

[nova1010]

be thankful that when everything goes 100% encrypted you can toss the scanners in the trash and take up basket weaving

LMAO :lol: Guelph has already gone I may have to take a course.

 

[bigcam406]

looks like someone forgot to take their prozac this morning.......

 

[unlisted]

Maybe we should go back to the really really old days- AM radios TX'ing Morse code only..

Regarding digital transmissions.. if the OP does consider upgrading their scanner at all, I would personally suggest a Pro106 over anything uniden currently offers.. Seeing as I own a Pro 106, BCD396xt and BDC396t. The 106 simply makes digital sound like.. well.. non digital.

 

[jellotor]

I love this guy, I really do. Can I summarize my education, classic.

 

[polkaroo]

I think digital is okay for computers ,TV or the internet but the technology is too crude for radios or cell phones.May be in the future they will fix it.

yeah I agree... i liked the internet when it was analog with Gopher and Telnet. I had Elm for email and UUEncoded all my files. It was faster. I ran FirstClass on a Mac Classic (from then-SoftArc-now-OpenText) and it wasn't as good.

 

[exkalibur]

There are also technological reasons for switching to digital my friend.

In the United States, they have mandated that everyone below 512MHz must switch from 25kHz channels to 12.5kHz by 2013, and a further reduction to 6.25 at a date yet to be announced.

Analog radios will work fine at 12.5kHz, however the FCC is suggesting a direct switch to 6.25kHz would be a good idea (and hey, if you're looking at new radios, why not pay now instead of pay twice). Unfortunatly, analog at 6.25kHz just isn't going to cut it. The solution? Digital.

So, as everyone else has said - get used to it. It isn't going away.

From the radio user perspective, there are some great options out there for digital, with fantastic voice quality. MotoTRBO for example, sounds beautiful. Sure, it still has that digital sound to it, but considering that digital now means you can process the speech to improve sound quality, better AGC and things of that nature, it is a very good trade-off.

If you like analog so much, 50-54, 144-148, 220-225, 430-450 have lots of activity that isn't likely go to away from analog in our lifetimes (heck, there's some who think voice on those bands is bad!).

 

[jellotor]

yeah I agree... i liked the internet when it was analog with Gopher and Telnet. I had Elm for email and UUEncoded all my files. It was faster. I ran FirstClass on a Mac Classic (from then-SoftArc-now-OpenText) and it wasn't as good.

Gah, don't go running Telnet down, now.

 

[exkalibur]

telnet 127.0.0.1

 

[mclove]

wow i feel the love in the air lol

 

[jellotor]

You've been around since 2002 so you'll know that the denizens of this forum have unloaded on people in much worse ways than this.

If you're going to make your mark on a internet forum with poorly-reasoned and badly-written screeds that ultimately miss their marks you can be assured that someone, anyone is going to take the piss out of you.

(And the only thing funnier than that is the hamfisted, poorly-reasoned and badly-written attempts to defend.)

There's probably a name for it, but in case there isn't, I propose the name Andy's Law, in honour of slicerwizard.

By the way, I was using the word 'you' in a general sense, mclove, not specifically mentioning you.

Anyway, back on 'topic,' this nonsense reminds me of the sturm und drang that erupted when land ambulance switched over to Fleetnet.