Aero Toronto - Tokyo HF

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Hi all. Getting back in the game and have a question. Looking for Anchorage HF for flights before the enter SFO NP region. I am using the Point Reyes SDR and find it works well. From my location in Ontario , I can hear 11282 fine both sides using a PAR SWL . I have re read the Rockwell Collins site and maps but can't see to locate the Anchorage HF.

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Chris,

Anchorage does not have any HF capabilities. Most of their airspace is covered by remote VHF transmitters. The far northern strip of Anchorage airspace that is out of VHF range is delegated to Gander Radio usually using 8891 or 11279 and sometimes rarely 4675 or 2971. It's rare that a flight from Toronto to Tokyo would go that far north as to be out of Anchorage VHF range though. Of course most of the communications with ATC these days is done using CPDLC datalink over either SATCOM or VHF (in range) and sometimes HFDL.

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Anything coming over the polar routes are using NAT-D frequencies. I have heard JAL coming over the pole from LHR to Narita but not recently - they had a flight that left LHR in the early evening UK time which was early morning here.
 

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I figured as much looking over the Jeppesen charts. So when they are flying south alongside Russia, are they not using HF or are there enough VHF remotes to carry them to destination ?
 

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South along Russia they have VHF remote transmitters at St. Paul Island (SPY) and Shemya (SYA) which seems to cover most of the airspace, although they also use HF (San Francisco) in this area as well for the gaps in VHF coverage.

I've been listening to San Francisco on 6655 this morning (1400-1600 UTC) and hearing all the eastbound traffic through Anchorage airspace check on for selcal checks as they cross the boundary, but not hearing any of the many westbound flights routing via R220 and R580. Probably stay on VHF ? You will get the westbound flights on HF as the pass into Tokyo airspace (Tokyo - 2932, 5628, 8951, 11330).

There was an eastbound B744 (NRT-ANC) routing via R591 passing over SYA and SPY giving position reports on 6655 (CPDLC must have been inop). Was told to "monitor" Anchorage on 119.10 when 150 nm from SYA but told to stay on 6655 for the position reports. Position reports were sent on 6655 at AAMYY, SYA, AMOND, ALDOZ, then told to "contact" Anchorage on 119.10 at position ALUFF.
 

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Ok. I've used Point Reyes in CA and one in northern AB. Hoping to catch them with my wire here in Ontario next...optimistic perhaps !! Thanks !!
 

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If interested in hfdl there's a AK ground station;

Version 51

Ground Station ID 1
SAN FRANCISCO - CALIFORNIA
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Longitude 121 45 33 W Latitude 38 23 4 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 8
Frequency 21934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 13276000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 11327000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 10081000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 8927000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 6559000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 5508000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4

Ground Station ID 2
MOLOKAI - HAWAII
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 157 11 11 W Latitude 21 11 3 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 12
Frequency 21937000 Hz Master Frame Slot 0
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 13324000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 13312000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 13276000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 11348000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 11312000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 10027000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 8936000 Hz Master Frame Slot 0
Frequency 8912000 Hz Master Frame Slot 0
Frequency 6565000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 5514000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7

Ground Station ID 3
REYKJAVIK - ICELAND
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 22 27 19 W Latitude 63 50 49 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 17985000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 15025000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 11184000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 8977000 Hz Master Frame Slot 0
Frequency 6712000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 5720000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 3900000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3

Ground Station ID 4
RIVERHEAD - NEW YORK
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 72 38 14 W Latitude 40 52 54 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 21931000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 13276000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 11387000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 8912000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 6661000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 5652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1

Ground Station ID 5
AUCKLAND - NZ
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 174 48 34 E Latitude 37 0 55 S
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 6
Frequency 17916000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 13351000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 10084000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 8921000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 6535000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 5583000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4

Ground Station ID 6
HAT YAI - THAILAND
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 100 23 18 E Latitude 6 56 15 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 21949000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 17928000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 13270000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 10066000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 8825000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 6535000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 5655000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10

Ground Station ID 7
SHANNON - IRELAND
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 8 55 35 W Latitude 52 44 38 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 8
Frequency 11384000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 10081000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 8942000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 8843000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 6532000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 5547000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 3455000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 2998000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6

Ground Station ID 8
JOHANNESBURG - SOUTH AFRICA
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Longitude 28 12 21 E Latitude 26 7 45 S
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 8
Frequency 21949000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 17922000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 13321000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 11321000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 8834000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 5529000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 4681000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 3016000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6

Ground Station ID 9
BARROW - ALASKA
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 156 34 37 W Latitude 71 15 30 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 19
Frequency 21937000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 21928000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 17934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 11354000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 10093000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 10027000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 8936000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 8927000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 6646000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 5544000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 5538000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 5529000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 4687000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 4654000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 3497000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 3007000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 2992000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 2944000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10

Ground Station ID 10
MUAN - SOUTH KOREA
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 126 14 19 E Latitude 35 1 56 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 8
Frequency 21931000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 17958000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 13342000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 10060000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 8939000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 6619000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 5502000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 2941000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7

Ground Station ID 11
ALBROOK - PANAMA
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 79 22 25 W Latitude 9 5 4 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 6
Frequency 17901000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 13264000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 10063000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10
Frequency 8894000 Hz Master Frame Slot 6
Frequency 6589000 Hz Master Frame Slot 2
Frequency 5589000 Hz Master Frame Slot 10

Ground Station ID 13
SANTA CRUZ - BOLIVIA
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 63 9 24 W Latitude 17 40 15 S
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 21997000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 17916000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 13315000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 11318000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3
Frequency 8957000 Hz Master Frame Slot 11
Frequency 6628000 Hz Master Frame Slot 7
Frequency 4660000 Hz Master Frame Slot 3

Ground Station ID 14
KRASNOYARSK - RUSSIA
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 92 35 0 E Latitude 56 9 9 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 21990000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 17912000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 13321000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 10087000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 8886000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 6596000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 5622000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4

Ground Station ID 15
AL MUHARRAQ - BAHRAIN
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 50 38 23 E Latitude 26 16 25 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 6
Frequency 21982000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 17967000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 13354000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 10075000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 8885000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 5544000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5

Ground Station ID 16
AGANA - GUAM
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 144 49 41 E Latitude 13 29 19 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 7
Frequency 21928000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 13312000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 11306000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 8927000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 6652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 5451000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9

Ground Station ID 17
CANARIAS - SPAIN
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 15 24 18 W Latitude 27 57 39 N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 6
Frequency 21955000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 17928000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 13303000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
Frequency 11348000 Hz Master Frame Slot 4
Frequency 8948000 Hz Master Frame Slot 12
Frequency 6529000 Hz Master Frame Slot 8
 

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These are good ones to plug in for flights on the Russian side of that route.

5664, 6692, 10048 (rare), 11198 for Khabarovsk Control (have logged many Canada-Asia bound flights here)
6631, 11285 for Petropavlovsk Control (good for flights crossing the Sea of Okhotsk / Kamchatka area)
4712, 8837, 11390 Magadan Control (flights often get handed to this from Gander)
 

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on the Russian side

I've also heard westbound flights working Magadan (Domestic) on 5550 as they cross the boundary from Anchorage at waypoint BESAT on G583.

Condition were poor today but I did hear traffic westbound on R220 checking in with San Francisco for selcal checks on 17946 (23-00 UTC) and later 13339 (after 01 UTC). Tokyo was using 11330 as the primary during this time.

This ARINC link is helpful for determining the current active San Francisco frequencies.

Pacific HF Assignments

Anyone monitoring SATCOM or HFDL have any CPDLC messages from Anchorage in this area ?

AS
 
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