TRBO

Status
Not open for further replies.

trumpetman

Member
Database Admin
Joined
Mar 24, 2007
Messages
1,916
Reaction score
324
Location
Charlotte, NC
MOTOTRBO is a Motorola digital format. It can not be picked up by any scanner; you must add a discriminator tap to your scanner and run the data into a program called DSD (Digital Speech Decoder) to decode the audio on your computer.
 

W9NES

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,843
Reaction score
10
Location
Indianapolis,Indiana
There are no current scanner models available that will receive Motorola TRBO. the only way you will be able to receive this mode is if you are a authorized user of a system that is TRBO.Maybe in the future newer scanners will have this mode included.
 

kayn1n32008

ØÆSØ Say it, say 'ENCRYPTION'
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
7,511
Reaction score
2,474
Location
Sector 001
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9900; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.746 Mobile Safari/534.11+)

trumpetman said:
MOTOTRBO is a Motorola digital format. It can not be picked up by any scanner; you must add a discriminator tap to your scanner and run the data into a program called DSD (Digital Speech Decoder) to decode the audio on your computer.

Actually MotoTRBO is Motorols trade name for Digital Mobile Radio(DMR) although Motorola added proprietary additions along the way. At a conventional level it IS compatable with DMR radios from a variety of other companies.
 

KidClerk

Member
Joined
Nov 9, 2004
Messages
217
Reaction score
0
Location
Newton Co., Indiana
Wouldn't the proper terminology be to say that scanners can't decode MotoTRBO? They can "receive" or "pick it up", but cannot decode it into an audible format that we can make sense out of.
 

kayn1n32008

ØÆSØ Say it, say 'ENCRYPTION'
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
7,511
Reaction score
2,474
Location
Sector 001
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9900; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.746 Mobile Safari/534.11+)

KidClerk said:
Wouldn't the proper terminology be to say that scanners can't decode MotoTRBO? They can "receive" or "pick it up", but cannot decode it into an audible format that we can make sense out of.

Yes that is correct.
 

W9NES

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,843
Reaction score
10
Location
Indianapolis,Indiana
At the present time to this day there are NO scanners on the market that will decode MTBO. If you wish to hear MTBO you will need to be authorized user of a system that is on MTBO. The only way that you can decode this is by buying a expensive computer program and hooking your scanner up to a computer. Most people do not want to do this and cannot afford this.
 

nd5y

Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
12,377
Reaction score
4,634
Location
Wichita Falls, TX
... If you wish to hear MTBO you will need to be authorized user of a system that is on MTBO. The only way that you can decode this is by buying a expensive computer program and hooking your scanner up to a computer. Most people do not want to do this and cannot afford this.

DSD is FREE and you don't need authorization from anybody to use it to decode MOTOTRBO audio or any of the other digital formats it decodes.
 

kayn1n32008

ØÆSØ Say it, say 'ENCRYPTION'
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
7,511
Reaction score
2,474
Location
Sector 001
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; CPU OS 6_1_3 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/536.26 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0 Mobile/10B329 Safari/8536.25)

W9NES said:
At the present time to this day there are NO scanners on the market that will decode MTBO. If you wish to hear MTBO you will need to be authorized user of a system that is on MTBO. The only way that you can decode this is by buying a expensive computer program and hooking your scanner up to a computer. Most people do not want to do this and cannot afford this.

COMPLETLY inaccurate. MotoTRBO(notice the spelling of TRBO) can and IS decode able using DSD. This program is FREE.

Edit: what ND5Y said X2
 
Last edited:

rapidcharger

Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2012
Messages
2,382
Reaction score
113
Location
The land of broken calculators.
TRBO (short for motoTRBO, I presume) is Motorola's trade name for DMR.

No scanner will do DMR out of the box. You can modify it and use a computer to demodulate.

Of course if you're the type of person willing to drop $500 on a digital trunk tracking scanner, you can buy a DMR radio (tranceiver) for less than that. You'll still have to know color and group codes. The DSD software that was mentioned is supposed to determine that for you but if you know all that already, you can skip that step and have a portable radio for convenience.

If it's a trunking system though or if they're running encryption (and a lot of them are since it's free and built in to the radios) you're out of luck.
 

nd5y

Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
12,377
Reaction score
4,634
Location
Wichita Falls, TX
DSD will not display color codes, radio IDs or talkgroups. It only demodulates audio. If you need to find color codes, time slots, talkgroups and radio IDs you need DMRDecode.
 

W9NES

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,843
Reaction score
10
Location
Indianapolis,Indiana
Thank You rapidcharger for your post. Your post says it all. Who has $500.00 to spend as current digital scanners do not have this and this should be included when you buy a scanner. Maybe when the new scanners come out from Uniden, GRE, Radio Shack, that this will be included for the user.
 

themadman364

Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2005
Messages
16
Reaction score
0
Location
Indianapolis, IN
At the present time to this day there are NO scanners on the market that will decode MTBO. If you wish to hear MTBO you will need to be authorized user of a system that is on MTBO. The only way that you can decode this is by buying a expensive computer program and hooking your scanner up to a computer. Most people do not want to do this and cannot afford this.

So the Software Defined Radio I built out of a old XP computer, a $15 E4000 TV dongle, and using DSD a FREE piece of software, that has NO scanner hooked to it and can decode MOTOTRBO can't possibly be working since it's not expensive and doesn't have a scanner hooked to it.

I'll have to remember that I can't possibly be hearing traffic on that from MOTOTRBO systems as I'm listing to such a system.

Just because you haven't researched a way, doesn't mean there isn't a way...
 

W9NES

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,843
Reaction score
10
Location
Indianapolis,Indiana
markanderson, I will answer your question.Plain and simple. Your radio shack pro-106 will NOT pick up Motorola TRBO they way it is at this time.No scanners on the market from Uniden,GRE, Radio Shack will decode Motorola TRBO.
 

rapidcharger

Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2012
Messages
2,382
Reaction score
113
Location
The land of broken calculators.
DSD will not display color codes, radio IDs or talkgroups. It only demodulates audio. If you need to find color codes, time slots, talkgroups and radio IDs you need DMRDecode.

That's what I meant!

So the Software Defined Radio I built out of a old XP computer, a $15 E4000 TV dongle, and using DSD a FREE piece of software, that has NO scanner hooked to it and can decode MOTOTRBO can't possibly be working since it's not expensive and doesn't have a scanner hooked to it.

I'll have to remember that I can't possibly be hearing traffic on that from MOTOTRBO systems as I'm listing to such a system.

Just because you haven't researched a way, doesn't mean there isn't a way...

Scanner or no scanner, you're still going to need a receiver or dongle of some kind and a computer. That's a lot to schlep around if you want to go someplace and take the action with you. Not everyone has a hoverround with all their computers and dongles installed on it.
 

rdale

Completely Banned for the Greater Good
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 3, 2001
Messages
11,380
Reaction score
6
Location
Lansing, MI
Better to run that setup at home and stream it to your phone.
 

RRR

OFFLINE
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 6, 2005
Messages
2,181
Reaction score
555
Location
USA
If you wish to hear MTBO you will need to be authorized user of a system that is on MTBO.

And who (besides you) says you have to be an "Authorized user" to receive MotoTRBO transmissions?
 

W9NES

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,843
Reaction score
10
Location
Indianapolis,Indiana
Motorola says this and and any other system administrator will tell you this. The admins do this to keep there systems secure so no one else outside will hear what is being said. I know of one hospital on the northwest side of Indianapolis and a local county highway department in Boone County, that also went to a Motorolla TRBO system. Too many people with scanners where listening to the communications. Now since they have gone to Motorolla TRBO no one can hear them except who is a authorized user(The employees that work for them).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top