What frequencies and talkgroups are being used for coverage of this incident?
Trump Shooting Coverage
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Would be either ICORRS or Pa StarNet. Looks like all encrypted. Fire talkgroups are quiet
The Butler County Fire 6 group has been active on ICORRS
I've started a public playlist here:
www.broadcastify.com
Let me know if anything needs to be added (on the fire/mutual aid side) from either system
I've started a public playlist here:
Butler County PA Special Event
Coverage of the Donald Trump political rally shooting
www.broadcastify.com
Let me know if anything needs to be added (on the fire/mutual aid side) from either system
All police channels in butler county are Encytped. There been one in the clear police transmission after the shooting. But I have not heard any others.
That pretty much all the traffic. I did not catch what channel the one in clear police transmission was on and i am betting that was made in error. Also appears they starting to release units as two medical unit just clear and are returning station.The Butler County Fire 6 group has been active on ICORRS
I've started a public playlist here:
Butler County PA Special Event
Coverage of the Donald Trump political rally shooting
Let me know if anything needs to be added (on the fire/mutual aid side) from either system
Here's the compilation of traffic when the shooting occured.
Butler County Fire/EMS Ops 6
Butler County Fire/EMS Ops 6
Let's stay focused on radio traffic related to the incident.
I was wondering what type of comms the local PD had with SS. There are reports that the bystanders notified local PD of the gunmen How quickly could the local PD notify the front line protection team of a shooter? I am assuming they would not have direct communication with them.
From the sound of fire/ems they had a common communication trailer.
At all USSS lead events there is a common command and communication center, whether a small room or large command trailer. While the regular officers do not have direct USSS contact, they do have direct contact with their supervisors in the command center which is staffed by all agencies working the event.
Butler county emergency services had command trailer on site. They posted a picture of it early in the day. They was also many references to command post through the day before the event.
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also the county got the ability to patch other channels to different talk groups. They do it all the time for fire calls when mutual aid is responding from non ICORRS counties
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also the county got the ability to patch other channels to different talk groups. They do it all the time for fire calls when mutual aid is responding from non ICORRS counties
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Hello from a journalist and radio novice,
I'm just wondering if any of you HEARD or know anyone who heard ANY communications in the minutes before the shooting involving law enforcement being alerted to the sighting of the shooter/working to contact/confirm permission to engage?
Thanks so much!
I'm just wondering if any of you HEARD or know anyone who heard ANY communications in the minutes before the shooting involving law enforcement being alerted to the sighting of the shooter/working to contact/confirm permission to engage?
Thanks so much!
All law enforcement traffic are encrypted in Butler have been for years.
It may be possible to get the county radio system audio. You won't know until you send the RTKL request to Butler County and see whether they grant it or not.
From PA's RTKL website: "Pursuant to § 708(b)(18) of the RTKL, certain 911 records are specifically exempt under the RTKL. However, 911 recordings or transcripts may still be released at the discretion of the agency. Generally, requests for 911 records should be directed to a county or the county’s emergency services."
The above covers both 911 call recordings (public calling in to report incident) and 911 radio recordings (dispatch, unit to unit, other emergency response comms on recorded radio system channels).
There is a separate law in PA, Act 22 of 2017, that covers audio and video recordings held by law enforcement. However, since radio comms are captured by the 911 centers that are generally NOT run by law enforcement agencies in PA, Act 22 would not apply.
From PA's RTKL website: "In Pennsylvania, requests seeking “any audio recording or video recording made by a law enforcement agency" are governed by Act 22 of 2017, a separate law from the Right-to-Know Law with its own separate process and procedure. While the Office of Open Records does not have jurisdiction over requests made under Act 22, information about Act 22 and a form that can be used to make Act 22 requests can be found here."
thank you so much! that is very helpful!
One other question - would it be the county or the city 911 center?(Or a state police 911 center?) I can send requests to all of them but just trying to get a better understanding of the division of labor.
This NYP article quotes a Butler CIty dispatcher: "A Butler City police dispatcher told The Post that the Pennsylvania State Police were charged with securing the AGR grounds."
trib.al/GG8cZQn
All Butler county Law enforcement are dispatch via the Butler County Emergency Services expect for Pennsylvania State Police they have there own dispatch system. Bulter city police who were a mutual aid resources no longer self dispatch as they use. I seen a lot place get stuff wrong.
The police agency where the event happen is Bulter township Police department. However from what i saw in videos and news clips most of departments in area where present.
Any you can find info on Bulter county Emergency Services here Emergency Services/911 | Butler County, PA
Bulter township information is here Call 911 - Butler Township
As for PSP no idea on where they dispatched out of as they always been encrypted. But Troop D Butler Barracks is the one for where the event happened. Troop D | State Police | Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
I would think PA State Police are exempt from any requests under Act 22 since their dispatching is operated at the individual barracks level and, therefore, a PSP controlled function.
Most county 911 centers are not run by a law enforcement agency in PA...theyre either operated by county EMA or as a separate agency within the county. I can't speak as to whether Butler City actually hires their own dispatchers or if they are just a desk within the county center...stuff like that varies by county here in PA and someone local would need to confirm.
Edit...looks like someone local was commenting while was. 😄
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They did not. The SS agents had to be paired up with local law enforcement to have any cross agency communication at all! I saw this on an NBC interview with a SS agent.
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This is pretty typical. There is a command post that coordinates between outlying LE personnel and the presidential protection details or counter snipers. Th beat cops assigned to various outlying areas are not talking direct to USSS assets.
The local cops would have had direct communications with this trailer located on farm show grounds. The below picture is from Butler county Emergency Services Facebook Page, photo was posted @ 12:49 July 13, 2024. The would also had communications with the 911 dispatch center.
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