Umm Lakewood Twp?

[Bentley]

Hey all! Anyone hear anything from lakewood recently? I'm not picking up anything at all.

I have had them locked out for a lil while, but I just tried to listen...and nothing.

Have they switched freq's? I have the freqs listed in the database programmed into my 2096.

Thanks

 

[DJ88]

Lakewood PD switched their F1 and F2 frequencies. F1 dispatch is now 453.600 and F2 is 453.325. It was the other way around and that's the way it's still listed on the database here. I receive them loud and clear here on Brick. If you don't already know this, you have to take the PL (127.3) off in order to receive them in digital mode. Digital systems don't use a PL or DPL. Sooooo, if you monitor 453.600 without the PL you should be receiving their dispatches. The database here says the system is digital/analog, but if they do transmit in analog, it's very seldom, if at all.

 

[fineshot1]

Here is another little tidbit regarding Lakewood. I have been hearing Lakewood dispatch talking to Quality Ambulance on 155.985 PL 186.2 every once in awhile. LW used to use this as there Hazmat frequency with a different PL tone. They do not use it very much so if you program it in and listen be patient....

EDIT: This is simplex so you may not hear the ambo units and the TX console audio is a little low so the lakewood dispatcher may be a little hard to hear.

 

[fineshot1]

This morning I am hearing alot of activity on the Lakewood FD freq ( 453.125 ). Sounds like some kind of drill going on. I also heard a Toms River and a command unit.

 

[Bentley]

Ahhh that may be my problem, I had 453.325 entered as Lakewood PD. I am in Lacey Twp. I hope I'm not too far away.

Thanks for the info about the PL. I never use them anyway.

 

[Bentley]

OK, I was hearing lakewood PD on 458.6000 which is in the database as channel 2. I was hearing them loud and clear for about a week. Now, I'm back to nothing...what gives??? I have all their other channels programmed, and I still hear nothing. I dont get it. Quite frusturating. :evil: Anyone have any advice?

 

[DJ88]

The correct frequency is 453.600. 458.600 is the input to the repeater. If you pick up anything at all on 458.600 (input) it would be the mobile/hand held units end of the conversation. I just picked up a transmimssion on 453.600 now (12:10 PM) a unit saying he was "out in the area on Central".

 

[Bentley]

wow....what the heck was I thinking !!! ??? I must have read the database wrong. Thanks so much for your help once again DJ !! You are the man! I am at work right now, but I will check it when I get home, I'm sure thats what I did. And that should just be entered as regular FM mode ... right?

 

[Bentley]

OK here we go again...lol.

I DO have 453.6000 entered as Lakewood PD. As well as every other channel they have listed, 453.6000, 453.3250, 453.8000, 453.2000 & 453.125. I hear absolutely nothing on these channels, including their main dispatch channel. The channels are not locked out...no PL set, ATT is off . I don't know why I wouldn't receive anything now after hearing them loud and clear for over a week. I haven't changed anything at all from then 'till now.

 

[hulka]

Weather change. Maybe you need a bigger antenna.

 

[fineshot1]

OK here we go again...lol.

I DO have 453.6000 entered as Lakewood PD. As well as every other channel they have listed, 453.6000, 453.3250, 453.8000, 453.2000 & 453.125. I hear absolutely nothing on these channels, including their main dispatch channel. The channels are not locked out...no PL set, ATT is off . I don't know why I wouldn't receive anything now after hearing them loud and clear for over a week. I haven't changed anything at all from then 'till now.

Bently
As I type this reply they are using the 453.6000(PD1) P25 rptr - I do not have a dig scanner so all i hear is the P25 noise but it is in use. Not sure where you are but i am close so i cant tell whether it is strong or not. I do know the FD rptr 453.1250 is not very strong signal or audio wise(its narrow band).

 

[DJ88]

The FCC Database shows a power output on the repeaters for both 453.600 and 453.325 as 60 watts. Fire repeater (453.125) output is 10 watts. I'm in the extreme northeastern part of Brick and I get both of the PD channels full meter all of the time. Fire dispatch is sometimes weak and a bit broken up, but the mobile units always seem to come in strong.

 

[kb2vxa]

I'm hearing everything just fine in Point and all I have for now is an 800MHz antenna sitting on a shelf in my room for the time being. Are you sure your antenna is where you left it?

 

[Bentley]

Yes, my antennas are exactly the same that I had them, I haven't changed anything. When I was recieving their transmissions a week or so ago, they were crystal clear. The freq's shouls just be entered as regular FM right?

 

[fineshot1]

Yes, my antennas are exactly the same that I had them, I haven't changed anything. When I was recieving their transmissions a week or so ago, they were crystal clear. The freq's shouls just be entered as regular FM right?

Bentley,
453.6000, 453.3250, and 453.2000 are P25. I do not have a dig scanner so not sure how yours gets programmed up. Perhaps another can help you with that.

453.8000 when its on the air is analog and the PL is 127.3

453.1250 is analog narrow band and PL is 210.7

 

[crazyboy]

Yes, my antennas are exactly the same that I had them, I haven't changed anything. When I was recieving their transmissions a week or so ago, they were crystal clear. The freq's shouls just be entered as regular FM right?

Yes, just enter them as FM and the scanner will automatically decode the P25.

 

[Bentley]

Do I need to input the PL's when programming digital? I dont have pl's entered on any of my channels. As far as programming P25 freq's into my 2096 to the best of my knowledge, its the same as entering a conventional analog freq. the scanner automatically detects (during a transmission) that it is a digital signal. But I am not 100% sure about that.

 

[Bentley]

Think this might help? I found this in the 2096 manual...

"From time to time, improvements may be incorporated into the DSP firmware. These improvements are typically designed to address issues that may be present with decoding the digital audio signals, and audio quality improvements. With updateable DSP firmware, you can ensure that your scanner is using the most recent DSP version available."

Or is that just audio quality...? I dont think that would make me not recieve a signal at all, but who knows. I'll download it and see what happens I guess.

 

[DJ88]

Reference to PLs....No. You do not enter a PL or DPL for digital frequencies. They don't use them.

 

[Bentley]

ok cool...thanks DJ!

I did a little experiment. I took my pro-96....put it next to my 2096 with the same ecact antenna (the 800mhz rubber duckie one from RS) . On my 96 I recieve Lakewood & Berkeley Twp (both digital) crystal clear, no static, no nothing. From the 2096, I get nothing. I switched it out with my other 2096 which is cloned from my pro-96 and still got nothing. Both my 96's and 2096's are cloned all exactly the same (with the same firmware too) , and I DO recieve berkeley PD and lakewood PD on the pro-96's, but I do NOT recieve berkeley and lakewood on my pro-2096's even when they are sitting right next to each other.

I sure am stumped....doesn't make sence to me. :evil:

Maybe I will take the advise of the product manual's troubleshooting section and take my scanner back to radio shack and have them take a look at it. I'm sure they will be able to help me with this problem! haha YEAH RIGHT! I can just hear it now, "ughhh what? your digital display isnt working??" or "we don't make digital computer (flatbed) scanners". :roll: