Uniden BC898T Rebanding Update

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compuscan

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I've downloaded the files here:

BC898TFirmwareUpdate < UnidenMan4 < TWiki

I'm about to do this update. The scanner I'm doing this to have version 1.29 and I'm assuming after this update it will be version 1.60, at least that's what the update is called.

I don't want to brick the radio so I just want to confirm a few things.

Has anyone else done this rebanding update?

If checking the firmware version by Holding " 2 + 4 + 9 " while turning power on after the update will the radio display 1.60?

I also assume that everyone should do this update if they own a BC898T?

How do you determine if the Motorola system in your area has been rebanded or are all Motorola systems now rebanded?
 

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- Did it many years ago
- it says U 1.60 if it has the firmware in it.
- You need to do it for analog Motorola 800MHz rebanded systems. However, if your system isn't analog and Motorola and 800MHz and rebanded, you do not have to do the update.
- look in the RR database for the system and see what it says. Had you posted which system it is, that would likely be easy to answer.

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Thanks, I'll check the version after the update to make sure it took.

Here's something extra I just found. Rebanding is for United States only and NOT Canada. If you own an older scanner in Canada and use Motorola Trunking in the 800 MHz band, it should still work fine. If you think your older non rebanding scanner is no good anymore, sell it to someone in Canada. So if you live in Canada, no need to reband your scanner. I think rebanding scanners that can be rebanded gives you the flexibility to change the offset for the new frequencies but you can also used the old systems too.

This is the article I found on the Government of Canada Website.

"Another example of differences between Canadian band plans is the recent U.S. rebanding of the 800 MHz band. The United States moved its public safety users to the lower part of the band, whereas Canada has maintained them in the upper part of the band. In this case, there was no need for a change, as Canada did not encounter the same inference issues and the equipment would remain available."


Full item here:

Radio Spectrum Inventory: A 2010 Snapshot — Canada - Spectrum management and telecommunications

3.2.4 Comparison with the United States

In general, the Canadian land mobile bands align with the U.S. land mobile bands. Although the bands themselves are aligned, the way that the bands are used may not align with the United States. In some cases, there are different users, different channelling, a different duplex and trunking scheme, as well as different technical criteria for these bands in Canada and the United States.

For the most part, the United States has set up its land mobile bands for different users and users are limited to using designated channels. In Canada, some bands are designated for particular users, but those users are not limited to those bands. For example, the band 162-174 MHz is a National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) band in the United States and can only be used by federal users, whereas in Canada, it can be used by any type of user.

Another example of differences between Canadian band plans is the recent U.S. rebanding of the 800 MHz band. The United States moved its public safety users to the lower part of the band, whereas Canada has maintained them in the upper part of the band. In this case, there was no need for a change, as Canada did not encounter the same inference issues and the equipment would remain available.

In the more recently released land mobile bands, the channelling and duplexing schemes are aligned between Canada and the United States, but in some of the older bands, such as the VHF band, these schemes do not align due to the number of users and the cost that would be involved in harmonizing with the United States.

The technical criteria for land mobile systems in Canada are often different from those in the United States. The equipment certification standards are harmonized, but the allowable power levels and the interference criteria are often different.
 

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A couple of years ago when that firmware came out it was for upgrading the 898 to receive the new "REBANDING" of a scanner when they exchanged the 890-898 band for 850-858....Most rebanding now here in my area is gone for new P2 technology.....Im pretty sure this is correct.....
 

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I tried to update my 898t years ago and something went horribly wrong. it seems that it removed the operating system completely from the scanner ........so when I turn it on only the back light comes on nothing else on the screen . perhaps i had incorrect usb to serial adapter , I dont know . so i bricked it I will order the correct cable and try again. has anyone else had this happen .thank you
 

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I tried to update my 898t years ago and something went horribly wrong. it seems that it removed the operating system completely from the scanner ........so when I turn it on only the back light comes on nothing else on the screen . perhaps i had incorrect usb to serial adapter , I dont know . so i bricked it I will order the correct cable and try again. has anyone else had this happen .thank you
If the radio only turns on to a blank screen and is truly bricked, I doubt buying a new cable and trying again will help. If you also had the wrong cable when you tried the update, I don't think it would brick you radio because it wouldn't communicate to the radio to do the upgrade. Something went wrong with the update and I believe you'll have to send it to Uniden to have it fixed. It's best to contact them first before you do anything and they will tell you if you can try the update a second time on a radio that may not respond to commands. Back to your cable, if you used it before the update to either upload/download memories or control the radio, you had the right cable. I don't think the update program would try to update without first checking that it can communicate with the radio after you select the correct com port. I think the firmware chip will either have to be replaced or removed to be re-flashed at the Uniden service location.

Good Luck.
 
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