Unknown System Tlll System Small 9

[bravo14]

I'm in Polk County and bands are opened up. FCC side and RRDB FCC isn't working still. Here is what I got

TlllnonStd (Auto) (MOT) Site S9-1 Color Code 1 453.1000 NL 2 3 4 5 6
9.2 CC=507
9.3 CC=521
9.4 CC=537
9.5 CC=631
9.6 CC=1607

Site 9.2 info
453.150 Color Code 2 NL 1 3 6

Site 9.4 info
453.3375 Color Code 4 NL 1 3 5

Site 9.6 info
460.025 Color Code 6 NL 1 2 5


If someone can confirm this info below

Site 9.1 453.100 LSN 499 LCN 249
Site 9.2 453.150 LSN 507 LCN 253
Site 9.3 453.2375 LSN 521 LCN 260
Site 9.4 453.3375 LSN 537 LCN 268
Site 9.5 453.925 LSN 631 LCN 315
Site 9.6 460.025 LSN 1607 LCN 803

 

[dave3825]

FCC site was back up last night but slower than before the shutdown.

 

[mtindor]

I'm in Polk County and bands are opened up. FCC side and RRDB FCC isn't working still. Here is what I got

TlllnonStd (Auto) (MOT) Site S9-1 Color Code 1 453.1000 NL 2 3 4 5 6
9.2 CC=507
9.3 CC=521
9.4 CC=537
9.5 CC=631
9.6 CC=1607

Site 9.2 info
453.150 Color Code 2 NL 1 3 6

Site 9.4 info
453.3375 Color Code 4 NL 1 3 5

Site 9.6 info
460.025 Color Code 6 NL 1 2 5


If someone can confirm this info below

Site 9.1 453.100 LSN 499 LCN 249
Site 9.2 453.150 LSN 507 LCN 253
Site 9.3 453.2375 LSN 521 LCN 260
Site 9.4 453.3375 LSN 537 LCN 268
Site 9.5 453.925 LSN 631 LCN 315
Site 9.6 460.025 LSN 1607 LCN 803

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Trunked License - WRWK860 - GILCHRIST, COUNTY OF

WRWK860 - Gilchrist County


I think @RayAir has another thread open about this site, or somebody does, because i remember the two Trenton and two Bell locations where I mentioned somebody should submit the site but decide upon destinctive names for the locations.

Unidentified Capacity Max/ Alachua Area

Does anyone know who is using the 453/460 MHz TIII system/s in the mentioned are? SLC_P_SYS_PARMS: Small; Net ID: 10; Site ID: 1.6; Comp CC: 0; SYS: 1125; SLCO Completed Block [34][49][40][0A][20] This site is coming in strong near Alachua. The 460 MHz are far weaker and may be towards...

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Of course the LCNs in the thread mentioned above are mostly wrong, and nobody ever submitted the system.

 

[bravo14]

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Trunked License - WRWK860 - GILCHRIST, COUNTY OF

WRWK860 - Gilchrist County


I think @RayAir has another thread open about this site, or somebody does, because i remember the two Trenton and two Bell locations where I mentioned somebody should submit the site but decide upon destinctive names for the locations.

Unidentified Capacity Max/ Alachua Area

Does anyone know who is using the 453/460 MHz TIII system/s in the mentioned are? SLC_P_SYS_PARMS: Small; Net ID: 10; Site ID: 1.6; Comp CC: 0; SYS: 1125; SLCO Completed Block [34][49][40][0A][20] This site is coming in strong near Alachua. The 460 MHz are far weaker and may be towards...

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Of course the LCNs in the thread mentioned above are mostly wrong, and nobody ever submitted the system.

I forgot about this one.... I do have all the ChID I have to plug these in dsdplus and see if anything shows up. Sound Site 10 was showing up up there. Here I'm getting SIte 9.

 

[mtindor]

I forgot about this one.... I do have all the ChID I have to plug these in dsdplus and see if anything shows up. Sound Site 10 was showing up up there. Here I'm getting SIte 9.

You're getting an S9-9 and an S9-10 ? There are only six sites on that license. If you are seeing an S9-9 and an S9-10, then either there is another license involved or it's another entity altogether running S9-9 and S9-10

 

[bravo14]

You're getting an S9-9 and an S9-10 ? There are only six sites on that license. If you are seeing an S9-9 and an S9-10, then either there is another license involved or it's another entity altogether running S9-9 and S9-10

When I sit on a freq it showed site 9 than about a hour ago I put the info in freq site & network than I go back to that freq than it was showing 10 than it goes back to 9. Right now it is on site 2 waiting to see if any TG show up.

 

[mtindor]

When I sit on a freq it showed site 9 than about a hour ago I put the info in freq site & network than I go back to that freq than it was showing 10 than it goes back to 9. Right now it is on site 2 waiting to see if any TG show up.

I think what you are saying is one minute it is saying the Network ID/Model is S9, and the next minute it is S10. Probably monitoring a weak signal T3 site, or one fading out (you mentioned some enhanced conditions). On a CAPMAX system, if it's weak it'll probably switch back and forth between DMR T3 Standard notation and CAPMAX notation, as it will not consistently see the things in the datastream that allow it to determine it is a CAPMAX system when signals are weak or being interfered with.

So it probably goes from S9-# to S10-#.# and then back to S9-#. Normal behavior on a week signal or one being interfered with. On a good signal DSDPlus can reliably/regularly see the data in the datastream that determines that it is a CAPMAX system, and at those times you wouldn't see that switch from S9-# to S10-#.#

Mike

 

[bravo14]

The signal is strong still. 2 sites decide to blank out on the fmp24 when I site on site 1 and a few sec later it blank cause a Cap+ come through. I'll have to make a trip up there one day since bands are open up strong getting different systems popping in on same freq.

 

[mtindor]

The signal is strong still. 2 sites decide to blank out on the fmp24 when I site on site 1 and a few sec later it blank cause a Cap+ come through. I'll have to make a trip up there one day since bands are open up strong getting different systems popping in on same freq.

Rgr that. Ok, well that would be classified as "interference" That's still the reason for the switch between S10-#.# and S9-#.

Nice sleuthing. You guys should now be able to get that system added to the DB since you know the CCs and LCNs (and presumably color codes) for all of the sites. Have fun determining better names for the BELL and TRENTON sites though

 

[bravo14]

Rgr that. Ok, well that would be classified as "interference" That's still the reason for the switch between S10-#.# and S9-#.

Nice sleuthing. You guys should now be able to get that system added to the DB since you know the CCs and LCNs (and presumably color codes) for all of the sites. Have fun determining better names for the BELL and TRENTON sites though

On the Bell & Trenton I put Bell South & Bell North Trenton East & Trenton Central went by the RRDB FCC LOC side. Now the signals are fading away.