Updating whistler 1088 channels

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Howdy Gordon,

There are two ways to transfer data.

1) The preferred way by many. Get a micro SD card reader. Take off the battery case of your radio. When the scanner is face down, the SD card slot is on the left hand side. Once the computer has found the micro SD card, in EZ Scan go to "Scanner/SD Card" -> "Copy Configuration To Scanner Memory/SD Card"

2) This way can be troublesome. Use a mini USB cable to transfer the data. Since your scanner is new and I assume you have not updated the firmware to support DMR, you'll have to do this for the first time. Turn off your scanner and plug it in. If lucky, it will install automatically. You probably won't be lucky, and there are tons of threads on here regarding scanner connectivity issues. After connecting successfully, you will go to "Updates" and

  • 1) "Check for CPU Firmware Update" Follow the prompts to complete.
  • 2) "Check for DSP Firmware Update" Follow the prompts to complete.
  • 3) Go to "Scanner/SD Card" and "Copy Configuration To Scanner Memory/SD Card" Follow the prompts to complete.
Reference this for very good information about how to use your scanner and EZ Scan: Select
 

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Thanks for your reply AggieCon and Howdy. : )

I was hoping to use method 2,My PC recognises the scanner with no problems and the first thing i did was update CPU,DSP firmware as DMR is the main reason i purchased the scanner (with large import taxation 121 dollars) so this is an expensive hobby i must master.

Thanks for the link.

I misunderstood what a scanner could actually do,i ignorantly thought it was just a case of picking a mode and scanning frequencies.DOH!
 

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it was just a case of picking a mode and scanning frequencies.

It can do that too, but most of the action is on trunked systems these days. It's certainly becoming more complex to scan.

Yay! I'm glad you were able to successfully connect and update. Some folks have lots of problems with that. If you record a lot or have a lot of programming data to transfer, you'll probably want to take out the SD card and use a card reader, otherwise, it can take a while.

Have fun with the scanner. If you have other questions, I will do my best to help.
 

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If you have other questions, I will do my best to help.

You might begin to regret that statement.LOL

Regarding Trunked System,I have been reading the manual (p33) and it mentions storing a wildcard talkgroup with the number 65535.

Could you explain what a wild card is and why 65535?

Also if i enable Radio ID will this display the ID of the Mototrbo frequency?

Also with not much experience i have been scanning via the limit search option,is there a better way?
 
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You might begin to regret that statement.LOL

Regarding Trunked System,I have been reading the manual (p33) and it mentions storing a wildcard talkgroup with the number 65535.

Could you explain what a wild card is and why 65535?

Also if i enable Radio ID will this display the ID of the Mototrbo frequency?

Also with not much experience i have been scanning via the limit search option,is there a better way?

Wildcard means it will monitor any talkgroup, Radio ID will show the ID of the subscriber unit.

I don't think the Whistler will decode DMR in limit search at the moment, I've always found Uniden scanners better in the UK than the EZScan variants of GRE/Whistler.
 

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Hello woodpecker,thanks for reply.

When i purchased the scanner i thought that whistler were the only brand who were developing the tech for DMR.The choice has been made and i will have to learn how to get the most out of my scanner but thanks for the heads up regarding Uniden.
 

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Wildcard is great. It means it will receive any active talkgroup on the system, as opposed to only those talkgroups programmed in your scanlists. It's useful for finding new talkgroups. It's also useful for testing reception and decode of a particular system (if it is not too busy), since you will receive more traffic in a certain time period. If a system is very busy, the wildcard can be annoying. On a busy system, the radio will cycle non-stop through the last few seconds of calls, so you end up hearing nothing intelligible and going crazy. Unfortunately, there is no setting to have the radio join a call only when receiving a channel grant command (vs. a call continuation command). To use wildcard to determine new talkgroups, put the wildcard and all of the known talkgroups in a scanlist. Then lockout all of the known talkgroups. This will cause the radio to receive unknown talkgroups only. I think the TG number assigned to the wildcard is internal to the scanner only.

On the advanced tab of EZ Scan, you'll want to change the display options to show Radio ID, site, etc. There is an option to show the CC/VC (control channel/ voice channel). That might show you what you want. I have not used the DMR yet, so I can't specifically answer that. Other than dumping the control channel data to the log file, I am not sure if the radio will show the LCN or frequency identifier.

When you use the limit search, service search, and spectrum sweeper, that is referred to as "searching" vs. "scanning." When you search, you are looking for activity on frequencies you haven't yet identified. Scanning implies cycling through preselected frequencies (or talkgroups if a trunked system) that you have already identified.

Are you trying to "scan" or "search"?
 

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When using the wildcard, if/when you find new talkgroups not already programmed, hit the MENU button while the wildcarded talkgroup is active and then select store the talkgroup (it will store the TGID of that newly found talkgroup). Then, if you don't want to hear that one anymore, you can SKIP or lockout the newly stored talkgroup to continue finding new talkgroups without continuously hearing that one (some talkgroups are really chatty).

Aggie is right - this only stores the newly found talkgroup data inside the radio on the SD card. If you want to save/keep the newly found and stored talkgroups, you'll at some point need to copy the VScanner/folder back to your PC into the EZ Scan software. Once there you can do more editing, renaming, setting attributes, etc. (you can also do most of this via the keypad on the radio but that can be a bit more tedious).

If you don't copy it back onto your PC, you're likely to overwrite all you've captured and need to start over.
 

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I forgot to mention. I record everything my radio receives. I hardly ever copy the SD Card configuration back over to EZ Scan. When adding new talkgroups, I go through the wildcard recordings and create the appropriate TG and Alpha Tag for the system.

When you are searching, you can save found frequencies by pressing the menu button like you can with wildcards on trunked systems.
 

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Still no luck.

Advanced features

Line 3 Alpha Tag and TGID
Line 4 System and Site Name
Line 5 Radio ID (Alt) or vc/cc

Trunked Radio clicked new,gave it an alpha tag,clicked Type DMR.
Trunked system site information,gave it an alpha tag,gave talkgroup and radio ID details both wildcards.
put in site frequency but didn't do anything with site options.

At the moment i feel like i would just like to run the scanner through my PC and use DSDplus just to get some audio.

Any how to advice.

AggieCon regarding scanning or searching,i mainly use the search function at the moment i am just trying to get one frequency working that is Mototrbo and work from there.
 
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Sadly, a $12 RTL stick and free software works much better than these scanners for digital decoding. There is tons of how to information in the software defined radio and voice decoding forums. If you still have questions, ask away in a new thread there.

Perhaps Wildcard won't even work with DMR?

The alpha tag of the system and site is irrelevant. It's just for your reference.

Let me experiment with DMR myself this evening, then I might be of more assistance. Is there a government or private database for frequencies in your area? Or are you having to search them yourself?
 

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@Aggiecon

I've tried the cheap nooelec dongle but I don't believe the signal was strong enough,the best I got was broken speech lasting about a second then gap for about 6 seconds then speech for second.I didn't want to risk buying other dongles more expensive when a decent scanner has more flexibility once I understand how to use it.

At the moment all I have is a few taxi analogues which I am able to scan,it's a start.
 
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At the moment i am just focusing on trying to get a DMR frequency which is 453.4750.

I have the Tg number the RID number the slot number,also the TGt numbers and the Src numbers.
 
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