SDS100/SDS200: USB power cable for Battery Charger?

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Hello,

I had a situation where it would have been nice to charge the SDS100 battery in the Uniden charger off of an USB port. Has anyone tried this and is there a ready-made cable that would work?

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What is the output volts and amps of the charger? What plug is on the charger?

USB is usually 5 volts. I have seen some USB charging cables that terminate in mini plugs.

The new USB C can have power delivery, and that is around 20 volts and 30 to 100 watts. Never seen anything other than USB C on both ends of these cables.
 

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Hello,

The input to the charger is listed as 5V@2A and matches the Uniden AC Adapter ratings. So it is doable via USB.

The "B" adaptaplug (4.0x1.7mm) fits and is the same as the Yaesu plug. There are USB to 4.0x1.7mm cables available. So looks like another project.

73 Eric
 

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I have the external charger too...
If that is the correct size of the barrel....
Check this out... More than one option available...

 

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Hello,

The input to the charger is listed as 5V@2A and matches the Uniden AC Adapter ratings. So it is doable via USB.

The "B" adaptaplug (4.0x1.7mm) fits and is the same as the Yaesu plug. There are USB to 4.0x1.7mm cables available. So looks like another project.

73 Eric

Have I read threads here where the external charger does not always charge in a fixed (unknown) amount of time and the charge LED starts blinking red or something? I assume the charging cradle has some form of timer protection in addition to the normal protections built into Lithium chargers.

I wonder if it could be a problem if you don't maintain the 2 amp current source that the OEM wall wart claims?
I don't have the external charger but just wondering if this would become a problem if someone buys the cable with the correct barrel plug on the charger end but plugs the other end into a small 1/2 amp USB port like many computer USB ports are rated at to meet the USB spec. I'd guess the charge cradle would just time out after whatever time limit is set if the cell has not reached full charge but it may be something to keep an eye on the first few uses.
 

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Lithium battery chargers don't use a timer. The output has voltage and current limits to prevent overcharging.
 

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Lithium battery chargers don't use a timer. The output has voltage and current limits to prevent overcharging.
I know in general that they don't rely on timers for lithium chargers but there have been threads here where some users were seeing some kind of error indication after getting the chargers when they became available. I can't recall what the indication was, a blinking LED I think after say 8 hours charge time.
Either way, I'm pretty sure someone determined it was caused by the Lithium cell not reaching full charge after some unknown time limit. I don't recall if that time limit was ever stated and I did not try and confirm if it was even true.

With that, there very well could be a timed circuit involved as a last case failsafe that shuts the charger down if what was stated is true. I never looked into it any further though as I don't have the external charger and I don't think there was much discussion about it. More likely user error like a cell not inserted correctly resulting in a poor connection.
It may have been Paul himself that mentioned the reason for the error indication before he went in for his treatment for all I remember, it's been a while since I saw anything about it.
I only remember talk about in a thread or so here somewhere and that's it.

I just figured it's worth mentioning here in case users start seeing this and are using lower current power supplies than the OEM supply that comes with the external charger.
 

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I know in general that they don't rely on timers for lithium chargers but there have been threads here where some users were seeing some kind of error indication after getting the chargers when they became available. I can't recall what the indication was, a blinking LED I think after say 8 hours charge time.
Either way, I'm pretty sure someone determined it was caused by the Lithium cell not reaching full charge after some unknown time limit. I don't recall if that time limit was ever stated and I did not try and confirm if it was even true.

With that, there very well could be a timed circuit involved as a last case failsafe that shuts the charger down if what was stated is true. I never looked into it any further though as I don't have the external charger and I don't think there was much discussion about it. More likely user error like a cell not inserted correctly resulting in a poor connection.
It may have been Paul himself that mentioned the reason for the error indication before he went in for his treatment for all I remember, it's been a while since I saw anything about it.
I only remember talk about in a thread or so here somewhere and that's it.

I just figured it's worth mentioning here in case users start seeing this and are using lower current power supplies than the OEM supply that comes with the external charger.
You are correct. This was a fail-safe timer if the normal SDS100 current-voltage charging criteria was not met within a certain time frame, it would stop charging and the red charging light would flash. The timeout was was 10 hours. See the following.
 

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You are correct. This was a fail-safe timer if the normal SDS100 current-voltage charging criteria was not met within a certain time frame, it would stop charging and the red charging light would flash. The timeout was was 10 hours. See the following.

Thanks for that link.
Although not specific to the external charger they released after the radio, I'm pretty sure it was this thread that I was remembering.

With this knowledge from Paul himself, I'd assume Uniden has a failsafe timer in the external charging cradles as well if they put one in the SDS100's.
 
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