Yaesu: VX-7R and 12.5 KHz channel spacing

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I have a VX-7R and was surprised when I could not set the transmit frequency to xxx.5252.

the radio would not allow me to enter the last digit “2”. Is this expected?
 

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From the manual, the radio can only be set to the following step sizes:
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A frequency on the 12.5 kHz step would be in the form of 145.5000, 145.5125, 145.5250, 145.5375, 145.5500, etc.
 

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Please excuse my error. The frequency I am trying to program is 138.4525.

If the lowest step frequency is 5 kHz shouldn’t 138.4525 be possible? Perhaps I am not understanding.
 

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Not gonna happen. Very few ham toy radios can synthesize these steps, let alone operate at the correct RX/TX bandwidth.
I was under the impression that the VX-7R was a quality HAM radio and not a toy. My APX-6000 seems to be able to tune this frequency.
 

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Please excuse my error. The frequency I am trying to program is 138.4525.

If the lowest step frequency is 5 kHz shouldn’t 138.4525 be possible? Perhaps I am not understanding.

Nope. Closest you can get would be 138.450 or 138.455.
 

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shouldn’t 138.4525 be possible? Perhaps I am not understanding.
You don't understand.
For your example 138.4525
1 = 100 MHz digit
3 = 10 MHz digit
8 = 1 MHz digit
4 = 100 KHz digit
5 = 10 kHz digit
2 = 1 kHz digit
5 = 0.5 kHz (500 Hz) digit

The frequency has to be multiples of one the tuning steps the radio is capable of otherwise it will round off to the nearest value or give an error.
If you are only receiving an analog FM signal you can usually be up to about 5 kHz off frequency and not have a problem.
If you are transmitting then it could be a problem depending on the allowed frequency tolerance and other rules of the radio service you are licensed for.
 

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I was under the impression that the VX-7R was a quality HAM radio and not a toy. My APX-6000 seems to be able to tune this frequency.
Of course the APX6000 can do that freq. It’s a professional radio that costs thousands of dollars. The Yaesu is a toy compared to it. OTOH, a Baofeng is a toy compared to the Yaesu.
 

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Of course the APX6000 can do that freq. It’s a professional radio that costs thousands of dollars. The Yaesu is a toy compared to it. OTOH, a Baofeng is a toy compared to the Yaesu.
Is this ability called channel spacing? If I wanted to look at the specs of a radio to see if it could tune to this detail of frequency what would the feature be called? For example, my APX-6000 can tune 138.4525, while the Yaesu cannot. What feature is different between the two radios? Thanks for your patience with me.
 
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You would need a radio that can tune in 2.5 or 7.5 kHz steps.
 

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You would need a radio that can tune in 2.5 or 7.5 kHz steps.
This is what is confusing me. The specs for the APX-6000 list the channel spacing as 12.5 kHz being the lowest, yet I can tune 138.4525.
 

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I screwed that up. The 4th decimal place should be
5 = 0.1 kHz (100 Hz) digit

Sometimes the term "channel spacing" is used instead of "bandwidth".
I always referred to it as “frequency steps”. Don’t know if that’s the correct term, but people knew what I was talking about.
 

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This is what is confusing me. The specs for the APX-6000 list the channel spacing as 12.5 kHz being the lowest, yet I can tune 138.4525.
The narrowband channels are known as splinters. Ham radios aren't design to tune the steps, you're also confusing bandwidth with synthesizer steps. The ham toys aren't capable of tuning these 2.5 or 7.5KHz steps and ham radio isn't required to operate at these bandwidths.
 

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The narrowband channels are known as splinters. Ham radios aren't design to tune the steps, you're also confusing bandwidth with synthesizer steps. The ham toys aren't capable of tuning these 2.5 or 7.5KHz steps and ham radio isn't required to operate at these bandwidths.
So is that what the feature called … “synthesizer steps”?
 
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