Warren Grove range..283.100 Audio

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I've been messing around with a recorder and caught some pretty good action. I monitored this on 283.100MHz on 11/17/06 at 9:25pm through 10:11pm. These were the first sustained comms I've heard since I started scanning the mil-air band. I live with-in 30 miles of McGuire AFB and Atlantic city so I assume there is a lot to here. Here's the audio I was able to capture. Its a bit long....

http://home.comcast.net/~jerryriged007/scanner-audio/warrengrove_11-17-06.mp3
 

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Skypilot007 said:
I've been messing around with a recorder and caught some pretty good action. I monitored this on 283.100MHz on 11/17/06 at 9:25pm through 10:11pm. These were the first sustained comms I've heard since I started scanning the mil-air band. I live with-in 30 miles of McGuire AFB and Atlantic city so I assume there is a lot to here. Here's the audio I was able to capture. Its a bit long....

http://home.comcast.net/~jerryriged007/scanner-audio/warrengrove_11-17-06.mp3

Fantastic signal quality. I hear Warren Grove (R-5002) from my location in Maryland but nowhere near this clarity and certainly don't hear the guys on the ground. The fighters in your recording are a flight of A-10s (callsign CADE) and an OA-10 (callsign MAD HOG) from the PA-ANG Willow Grove. They are working with Forward Air Controllers on the ground (BOILER/ZIPPER). I assume you have the other freqs for Warren Grove - 139.625 VHF and 32.35 low band FM. They often set up their missions with the range controller (RANGER) on the 139.625 freq as they enter the range. But you probably knew that.

Many thanks for the recording. Right at the end of the recording, they sign off with RANGER and change over to "button 12" (363.8 McGuire Approach.) Very interesting.

P.S. Medford NJ is only 10 or so miles from the WG Range, isn't it?
 
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I'm about 15-20 miles for Warren Grove. Thanks for filling in some of the details TinEar. I'm fairly new to the mil-air monitoring so many thanks for the explaining in detail what I was listening too. I'll post more if I get them. BTW I was using my BC895XLT hooked to a commet GP-6 feed with 9913 and a small sony IC pocket recorder. I have since switched all my mil-air to one of my 780's, same antenna, seems to work quite well but I am kind of close to the range too.
 

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Hi guys. That was awesome, thanks for posting that.

I am brand new here, am just about to pick up a Pro 97 (well, I bought one but the USPS lost it in the mail!). I basically bought it because I live in Willow Grove, PA and am about 8 min down the road from the NAS/JRB. I see the A-10s flying mostly every day. I'm anxious to start listening, and learn more about the scanner. I'm very interested in the military flying stuff, like the Willow Grove base, so I'm sure i'll be asking some questions and the like. Nice to be here!

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Skypilot007 said:
I'm about 15-20 miles for Warren Grove. Thanks for filling in some of the details TinEar. I'm fairly new to the mil-air monitoring so many thanks for the explaining in detail what I was listening too. I'll post more if I get them. BTW I was using my BC895XLT hooked to a commet GP-6 feed with 9913 and a small sony IC pocket recorder. I have since switched all my mil-air to one of my 780's, same antenna, seems to work quite well but I am kind of close to the range too.

Skypilot007, we have a MilAir thread on the Maryland forum (Sticky Thread for MilAir II) that covers a lot of what happens over a several state area. Even though it's an MD thread, we have guys from NJ/PA/VA/WV that post there since it's all related activity. Feel free to pop in when you hear something or just to ask questions if you wish.

Same for you Waltz41. We cover the Willow Grove activity also.
 

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AWESOME man, Very nice signal you were getting from these guys. I record alot of my stuff too. Good catch and have fun with milair!
 

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TinEar said:
Skypilot007, we have a MilAir thread on the Maryland forum (Sticky Thread for MilAir II) that covers a lot of what happens over a several state area. Even though it's an MD thread, we have guys from NJ/PA/VA/WV that post there since it's all related activity. Feel free to pop in when you hear something or just to ask questions if you wish.

Same for you Waltz41. We cover the Willow Grove activity also.

Alan,

Any thought ever given to moving the milair thread from the MD forum to the military forum?
 

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benrussellpa said:
Alan,

Any thought ever given to moving the milair thread from the MD forum to the military forum?

Yes, but it wasn't seriously considered. The thinking was that we needed a regional forum. It would aid all of us in that region by gathering details of flights that extend beyond the listening area of most of us since unit flight areas are larger than a single person's listening area. It has worked extremely well in that regard.

If we brought it over to the Military Forum, it would become a nationwide flight log and regional flight details would be lost or very difficult to find in the clutter. You see how large the Maryland thread has become with thousands of replies and page views. Imagine a single thread with 30 or 40 such groups posting from all over the country. Area continuity would be lost.

There is, in my opinion, some benefit to reading nationwide logs such as those at the Milcom forum on qth.net to gain an understanding of such things as callsign and airframe usage along with flight tactics which constantly develop and change. Those things might be used in a different part of the country before being used in my area. I also find it helpful when a flight from my area flies out of range heading south, for instance, and someone from Florida jumps in and says they were heard at the Avon Park Range down that way. Good stuff.

However, I think we've probably developed an understanding of all the details of military flying units in our region much more completely as a result of the regional coverage that just happens to be within the Maryland forums simply because it started there and spread out as the need arose. New frequencies and callsigns are recovered immediately as a result. I believe that ability would suffer if the thread covered a much larger area. I do think other regions around the country where there is sufficient interest should probably do the same thing whether it's in a generic thread or in state threads. It would help everyone in an area to have the same amount of interest and contributions we have in our region.
 
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eggs-ellent recording!!

One small question/point.

Were the "FACS" actually personnel on the ground, or other pilots role-playing?

A-10s from CT & MA ANG often "play" FAC & other ground controller types when headed to Ft. Drum range or YANKEE/FALCON MOAs

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Being the aircraft operate between 4,000 and 8,000 feet they can be heard over a WIDE area. This afternoon Ugly (;->) was spotting, they took out a radar, a command vehicle and several "triple As" (AAA) shooting at them from the ground. Too bad I didn't have a capable scanner while watching the aerobatics when I lived in West Creek.

The frequency once in a while is used for something else, I haven't figured out just what.
 

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JohnFB said:
eggs-ellent recording!!

One small question/point.

Were the "FACS" actually personnel on the ground, or other pilots role-playing?

A-10s from CT & MA ANG often "play" FAC & other ground controller types when headed to Ft. Drum range or YANKEE/FALCON MOAs

JohnB WMass

Yes, John, I believe in that instance during his recording the FACs were indeed FACs on the ground and not the simulated type we often hear when A-10s are at various ranges.

Alan
 
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